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To be honest, I think it's the same handful of people (on the religious side, and atheist side) that show anger and judgment. I try to completely ignore those posts. For the most part, I feel we have a really good group of people here.
I don't really understand the motivation of the angry atheists. Why be here? I also don't get the critical Christians. Thousands of people read these threads. We should at least be trying to reflect God's love.
I assume you are talking of the more blunt responses, like maybe that of people like myself?
Forgive me if I'm wrong, and I really am not here to cause anyone unpleasantries, but the 'really good group of people here' are not 'friends'. This is a debating internet board, and IMO a place for honest intellectual argument. If anyone makes a comment that I do not agree with then I will say so, backed up with a reason. If that comes accross as anger, then I can assure you, it isn't.
I'm here because its a place where certain religious people congregate and may, or may not, read non-agreeable responses to their religious convictions. If anyone would like to point out the idiosyncracies in my atheist attitude then great, I'm all ears.
I also agree with Jeff. As the purpose of the forum is not for "Christian fellowship", but rather a place for ALL to discuss their various beliefs, to debate, and learn about our differences, dissagreement is virtually certain. Personally I have no problem with someone "attacking" my values and beliefs....I don't feel it is anything personal. None of them know me, and I don't know them. If someone says my belief in God is "dumb and stupid", I just shrug my shoulders and think "Oh well....whatever....the Bible said that would happen....", then forget about it. I don't dwell on it for hours and hours, dreaming up ways to "get even". Everyone is free to believe what they want, we just don't have to agree, and vice-versa. Example (since his name was mentioned): I, for one, am very glad Montana Guy is on the forum, although obviously my beliefs don't agree with his. I still like him being here...we can just agree to disagree, that's all...I don't make a big deal out of it. I don't feel any hostility or bitterness about it. Same thing with Christians vs Christians, due to the different beliefs in the denominations. I doubt I can convince anyone to think like I do, and likewise I doubt they can change me. (although I might...if they can show me their viewpoint is the Bible...I am open to change, as God leads...) I am happy to be learning what others think...it's fun! My 2 cents....
I also agree with Jeff. As the purpose of the forum is not for "Christian fellowship", but rather a place for ALL to discuss their various beliefs, to debate, and learn about our differences, dissagreement is virtually certain. Personally I have no problem with someone "attacking" my values and beliefs....I don't feel it is anything personal. None of them know me, and I don't know them. If someone says my belief in God is "dumb and stupid", I just shrug my shoulders and think "Oh well....whatever....the Bible said that would happen....", then forget about it. I don't dwell on it for hours and hours, dreaming up ways to "get even". Everyone is free to believe what they want, we just don't have to agree, and vice-versa. Example (since his name was mentioned): I, for one, am very glad Montana Guy is on the forum, although obviously my beliefs don't agree with his. I still like him being here...we can just agree to disagree, that's all...I don't make a big deal out of it. I don't feel any hostility or bitterness about it. Same thing with Christians vs Christians, due to the different beliefs in the denominations. I doubt I can convince anyone to think like I do, and likewise I doubt they can change me. (although I might...if they can show me their viewpoint is the Bible...I am open to change, as God leads...) I am happy to be learning what others think...it's fun! My 2 cents....
Bud
You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to BudinAk again. Dang it! Good post man.
I assume you are talking of the more blunt responses, like maybe that of people like myself?
Forgive me if I'm wrong, and I really am not here to cause anyone unpleasantries, but the 'really good group of people here' are not 'friends'. This is a debating internet board, and IMO a place for honest intellectual argument. If anyone makes a comment that I do not agree with then I will say so, backed up with a reason. If that comes accross as anger, then I can assure you, it isn't.
I'm here because its a place where certain religious people congregate and may, or may not, read non-agreeable responses to their religious convictions. If anyone would like to point out the idiosyncracies in my atheist attitude then great, I'm all ears.
Umm, actually I did not have you in mind at all. And I am all for a good debate. I was talking about people who come on solely for the sake of argument and whose hatred or narrowmindedness comes through above and beyond anything else.
I don't really know how you took my post so negatively, to be honest. Have we had some heated arguments I don't remember?
Umm, actually I did not have you in mind at all. And I am all for a good debate. I was talking about people who come on solely for the sake of argument and whose hatred or narrowmindedness comes through above and beyond anything else.
I don't really know how you took my post so negatively, to be honest. Have we had some heated arguments I don't remember?
I can think of at least one believer who is as bad as any non-believer I've ever run into. It's on both sides, for sure.
Umm, actually I did not have you in mind at all. And I am all for a good debate. I was talking about people who come on solely for the sake of argument and whose hatred or narrowmindedness comes through above and beyond anything else.
Well I love a good debate or argument but it certainly doesn't ever come out of hatred. I just gotta big ol' yap!
Yeah, even Jeff and I love each other! So there's really hope for anybody, right!?
Oh kay, your one of my faves! I thought you knew that!
I can respect anyone that speaks what they believe with conviction and honesty, yet still remains respectful of others. Even if we disagree about "you know what".
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