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Old 04-23-2011, 12:22 AM
 
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And yet despite a devastating global flood, the various neolithic tribes still managed to give rise to the first dynasty of China only a mere few centuries later. Also lets not forget the Indus Valley Civilization which the flood must've completely circumvented. And last but not least, various Egyptian Dynasties who make not one mention of such an event.
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Old 04-23-2011, 09:54 AM
 
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There were no living dinosaurs, God just created their fossils.
Gawrsh! That done explain all of it!
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Old 03-30-2013, 11:26 AM
 
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So, why is it that some people still think the bible is 100% fact? Most Christians think that the bible is a great historical reference, when in fact it is a terrible one.

Take Noah's flood? If the flood did happen when the bible said it did, explain Egypt? How was Egypt untouched?

There are so many things in the bible that the bible scholars still feel are accurate, but historical evidence proves otherwise.
Gosh I wonder how salt water ended up inside the Great Pyramid of Giza. The rings of salt water are clearly documented! Where did all the sea shells come from that surround that area??

Jesus testified as to the validity of Noah!

The Apostle Paul was an historical person - In fact there are more books written about Paul - than any other person in the entire history of the world!
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Old 03-30-2013, 08:20 PM
 
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thanks!

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Old 03-30-2013, 09:57 PM
 
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Jesus testified as to the validity of Noah!
I would certainly expect as much!

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Old 03-30-2013, 10:12 PM
 
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Gosh I wonder how salt water ended up inside the Great Pyramid of Giza. The rings of salt water are clearly documented! Where did all the sea shells come from that surround that area??
There was no salt water in the pyramids and no evidence of such. The seashells could have come from the various populations over the millenia using the mollusks as a food source or the fact that the area was once a shallow sea. The Nile River is also prone to flooding probably much more so in the past.


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Jesus testified as to the validity of Noah!
So we're supposed to be impressed by one mythical figure vouching for the validity of another?

Even if Jesus were real it is not shocking that he would reference a well known folk tale to make a point to the ignorant illiterates he was preaching to. And Jesus would have been just as ignorant of the true geological history of the Earth as anyone else in ancient times.

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The Apostle Paul was an historical person - In fact there are more books written about Paul - than any other person in the entire history of the world!
Irrelevant on all counts.
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Old 03-31-2013, 01:39 AM
 
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The Apostle Paul was an historical person - In fact there are more books written about Paul - than any other person in the entire history of the world!
I've seen that claim from Apologists before. Could you give us a list of those books please? Or even just name a couple.
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Old 03-31-2013, 08:56 AM
 
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There was no salt water in the pyramids and no evidence of such. The seashells could have come from the various populations over the millenia using the mollusks as a food source or the fact that the area was once a shallow sea. The Nile River is also prone to flooding probably much more so in the past.




So we're supposed to be impressed by one mythical figure vouching for the validity of another?

Even if Jesus were real it is not shocking that he would reference a well known folk tale to make a point to the ignorant illiterates he was preaching to. And Jesus would have been just as ignorant of the true geological history of the Earth as anyone else in ancient times.



Irrelevant on all counts.
Your credentials, Your presumptions - the proof you have presented plus your incredible expertise are beyond impressive to say the very least!! But all you have done is present a one sided view with absolutely no proof! Just your say so!

Not one reference - just a broken sentence or a sarcastic question. I must say in all honesty - all you have done - is blabber meaningless dribble. Which makes it all - "how did you say it??"

Irrelevant on all counts!

Use google and search Giza Salt Sea shells Pyramid- "could have" just doesn't cut it with your explanation!

I want solid bankable proof that is undisputed - It is all over google - but you won't accept those thousands of "evidences" you want me to believe your "Could Have"!! That's priceless - Did you even bother to read what you wrote??

That area was once a shallow sea? Pray tell how did the foundation of that pyramid remain perfectly level all through those thousands of years ?

your "fairy tale" explanations don't begin to even make sense.

I'm wasting my time here - Jesus only spoke to ignorant people? - WOW!

Jesus said 7 times He Was God - 12 people called him God -

Jesus would have been just as ignorant of the true geological history of the Earth as anyone else in ancient times.???

Do you realize what you just said?? The Creator of the everything is ignorant of His Creation!!
The builders of that prymaid included the exact circumference of the earth and other geological data in the construction.

One should learn the simple facts before you spout nonsense

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Old 03-31-2013, 09:48 AM
 
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Notice: The experts agree - The Egyptians could not have possibly built the 3 great pyramids.
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Old 03-31-2013, 12:31 PM
 
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Gosh I wonder how salt water ended up inside the Great Pyramid of Giza. The rings of salt water are clearly documented! Where did all the sea shells come from that surround that area??

Jesus testified as to the validity of Noah!

The Apostle Paul was an historical person - In fact there are more books written about Paul - than any other person in the entire history of the world!
Of course you ignore the timing of those salt deposits, which do not, in any possible way, coincide with Jesus' life's chronology. If you were to fully research the topic, you'd have found this (and would then also have had to report it as part of the full story, but I can see where that would muddle up your intended storyline:

"Still further evidence that the dynastic Egyptians did not construct the Great Pyramid of Giza may be found in sediments surrounding the base of the monument, in legends regarding watermarks on the stones halfway up its sides, and in salt incrustations found within. Silt sediments rising to fourteen feet around the base of the pyramid contain many seashells and fossils that have been radiocarbon-dated to be nearly twelve thousand years old. These sediments could have been deposited in such great quantities only by major sea flooding, an event the dynastic Egyptians could never have recorded because they were not living in the area until eight thousand years after the flood.

This evidence alone suggests that the three main Giza pyramids are at least twelve thousand years old. In support of this ancient flood scenario, mysterious legends and records tell of watermarks that were clearly visible on the limestone casing stones of the Great Pyramid before those stones were removed by the Arabs. These watermarks were halfway up the sides of the pyramid, or about 400 feet above the present level of the Nile River.

Further, when the Great Pyramid was first opened, incrustations of salt an inch thick were found inside. While much of this salt is known to be natural exudation from the stones of the pyramid, chemical analysis has shown that some of the salt has a mineral content consistent with salt from the sea. These salt incrustations, found at a height corresponding to the water level marks left on the exterior, are further evidence that at some time in the distant past the pyramid was submerged halfway up its height.", from:

The Great Pyramid of Giza, Egypt

So... the actual floods occurred, when again? Versus your supposed Fludd... I'll leave it up to you to tell us, and please, don't be Selective in your quote-mining! If you want to use only parts of the evidence, leaving out the calculated facts that are an integral part of the evidence you chose to present, the timing pretty much eliminates the possibility of it coinciding with the alleged Fludd!
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