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Actually, they can't be proven wrong. You think that because something doesn't have "evidence" that it can't be real. Logic doesn't come close to explaining away religious belief, neither does reason.
Science, though many believe it has, has not disproved any religion.
Something that cannot be seen, cannot be proven to exist or not to exist. So, then you say that logic would tell us that it doesn't exist. Wrong! All logic would tell us is that it cannot be proven right or wrong at this time.
Au contraire, kiddo. Science has disproved legions of biblical ideas and religious necessities, especially as we've rounded the corner into the home stretch, here in the year 2011. DNA mapping & lineage genetics, dating of ancient geology and universe, the Hubble space scope, and so on, all have essentially put to bed all those nagging Christian and Islamic necessities. Finally, incontrovertibly and irrefutably. If that doesn't dispense with the absolutism and denialism of org-religion, nothing will. Fortunately, it has and will continue to do so. Nolo contendere [no contest...]. As QH notes....
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Originally Posted by QuixoticHobbit
On the contrary, religions can easily be, and have been proven false. The human origins of the Bible and Christianity have been quite clearly proven through historical and archaeological evidence. There is very little doubt that the Biblical god is no more real than Zeus, Jupiter or any of the earlier Sumerian gods he was based upon. The pagan origins of Christianity are not really debatable, either.
If there is a universal creator it is/they are far less absurd and far more rational and intelligent being than the god(s) of the Bible/Abrahamic religions.
Exactimondo, QH. when considered en mass, and in toto, the Christian construct is far too convenient yet incomplete to be easily accepted by those of us with an iota of skeptical thinking abilities. You have to as blindered and easily convinced as a kindergartner to just go for it, hook, line & toxic-lead sinker.
As well, and again, I ask those who like raison's last post, above:
Why? Why do we necessarily need to have "a reason for the narrative", for what's around us? What does that "explanation", especially when or if it's not on the money, have to contribute?
There are obviously those who desperately need a "greater explanation", those who endlessly ask "why are we here"" or some such conundra.
And in the meantime, for some of us, there's a lot of interesting questions to be asked and answered, absent some artificial and limiting overlay. Enjoy!
Actually, they can't be proven wrong. You think that because something doesn't have "evidence" that it can't be real. Logic doesn't come close to explaining away religious belief, neither does reason.
Stand by to cast all your silly mythology in the trash bin.
Reason and fact explain "religious beliefs".
Here we go, hang on tight, 'cause its going to sting a bit.
People are born, they live, and then they die. They completely and totally die with no "part" of them continuing on. In other words, man is "mortal".
People have a hard time facing that fact, i.e. that someday they will die, and that will have been it for them, so they have to invent some sort of life after death - beit reincarnation, happy hunting ground in the sky, heaven, paradise or whatever. That "belief" (or, rather, deceit) can't exist in a vacum, so they invent a context to hold it in, i.e. religion.
I say, man-up, face your mortality, life a good life and then accept death. Life is so much more meaningful and unconfused when you accept that reality, and cast the religion mumbo jumbo out of the window.
Hawkins is a respectable genius ,but then so is Das yeah! I discovered that God created gravity, magnatism , physics,planet alignment,big,bang,and the entire solar system and the whatever else pleases Him or tickles His fancy.
Hawkins is a respectable genius ,but then so is Das yeah! I discovered that God created gravity, magnatism , physics,planet alignment,big,bang,and the entire solar system and the whatever else pleases Him or tickles His fancy.
Das
And how did you make that discovery? I'm sure the explanation must be fairly enlightening.
Stand by to cast all your silly mythology in the trash bin.
Reason and fact explain "religious beliefs".
Here we go, hang on tight, 'cause its going to sting a bit.
People are born, they live, and then they die. They completely and totally die with no "part" of them continuing on. In other words, man is "mortal".
People have a hard time facing that fact, i.e. that someday they will die, and that will have been it for them, so they have to invent some sort of life after death - beit reincarnation, happy hunting ground in the sky, heaven, paradise or whatever. That "belief" (or, rather, deceit) can't exist in a vacum, so they invent a context to hold it in, i.e. religion.
I say, man-up, face your mortality, life a good life and then accept death. Life is so much more meaningful and unconfused when you accept that reality, and cast the religion mumbo jumbo out of the window.
Prove that nothing happens after you die. Prove that there is no afterlife.
God did not create the universe, world-famous physicist Stephen Hawking argues in a new book that aims to banish a divine creator from physics.
Hawking says in his book "The Grand Design" that, given the existence of gravity, "the universe can and will create itself from nothing," according to an excerpt published Thursday in The Times of London.
"Spontaneous creation is the reason why there is something rather than nothing, why the universe exists, why we exist," he writes in the excerpt.
He admits that there is such thing as create itself from nothing .. but if you ask him about god he will say who creat god ?!!!!!
a perfect example of contradiction !!
it's not worth it .
Originally Posted by fractured_kidult Prove that nothing happens after you die. Prove that there is no afterlife.
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Err no that is not how it works. The one making the positive claim should do the proving.
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What "positive claim" did fractured_kidult make?
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See here in SA, the sky is green - prove me wrong.
Is that a "positive claim?"
Then, according to your stated standard, YOU must prove it.
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