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Old 03-17-2011, 03:43 PM
 
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From what I have read I have to agree with those that have said that modern Bible versions ...
You, as did the others, are referring to the Christian Bible, not the Bible.
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Old 03-17-2011, 06:06 PM
 
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You, as did the others, are referring to the Christian Bible, not the Bible.
hey walter G, i was wondering because i am assuming you are jewish, why is that the jews do not accept jesus as a prophet. im not going to argue but i may possibly want to discuss different viewpoints, if any. i havent done too much research into the religion of judaism, but i have always been curious as to why they do not accept him as a prophet of god?...
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Old 03-17-2011, 07:54 PM
 
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how could you change god's words ?

There are no "god's words" there are only words that unscrupulous people have been selling to the masses for thousands of years, And the rest of world literature.
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Old 03-17-2011, 10:02 PM
 
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... why is that the jews do not accept jesus as a prophet.
Because Jesus of Nazareth, if he actually existed, was not a prophet.

For the Jewish definition and listing of all the prophets, see Judaism 101: Prophets and Prophecy
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Old 03-17-2011, 11:47 PM
 
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Because Jesus of Nazareth, if he actually existed, was not a prophet.

For the Jewish definition and listing of all the prophets, see Judaism 101: Prophets and Prophecy
i know of the prophets, but i was just curious as to why, if he performed miracles, came with the word of god and not to change it but in a sense, re-establish it, do u not accept him as a prophet? just wondering what a jewish perspective is on it...
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Old 03-18-2011, 01:43 AM
 
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Because Jesus of Nazareth, if he actually existed, was not a prophet.

For the Jewish definition and listing of all the prophets, see Judaism 101: Prophets and Prophecy
No matter how you define a prophet, a prophet is sent by God and only God's standard is to follow. All human defintions are of just speculation. Similarly, Law is also granted by God and only God can sit on the judgment seat, not the Jews.

In the end, if God exists then God is the standard, so don't sound as if the Jews are holding the standard.

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Old 03-18-2011, 06:13 AM
 
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No matter how you define a prophet, a prophet is sent by God and only God's standard is to follow. All human defintions are of just speculation. Similarly, Law is also granted by God and only God can sit on the judgment seat, not the Jews.

In the end, if God exists then God is the standard, so don't sound as if the Jews are holding the standard.

We do understand what we believe as Jews. Jesus was a Jewish man who had a following. He may have been a teacher, rabbi, that is certainly more credible then a prophet or a god.

So as Jews we certainly can speak to what our tradition has to say.
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Old 03-18-2011, 08:07 AM
 
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i know of the prophets, but i was just curious as to why, if he performed miracles, came with the word of god and not to change it but in a sense, re-establish it, do u not accept him as a prophet? just wondering what a jewish perspective is on it...
Judaism holds that these "reported" miracles never occurred.
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Old 03-18-2011, 08:15 AM
 
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In the end, if God exists then God is the standard, so don't sound as if the Jews are holding the standard.
G-d gave the Jews, and only the Jews, the Torah and the 613 Mitzvot (Commandments) included therein.

According to Maimonides (Rabbi Moses ben Maimon, otherwise known by the acronym Rambam, 1135-1204 C.E.), "The Written Torah (first 5 books of the Bible) and Oral Torah (teachings now contained in the Talmud and other writings) were given by the Almighty to Moses and there will be no other Torah." (Source: Rambam's thirteen principles of faith).
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Old 03-18-2011, 08:44 AM
 
Location: El Paso, TX
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You, as did the others, are referring to the Christian Bible, not the Bible.
So which is the Bible and which is the Christian Bible? Take care.
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