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Old 03-18-2011, 02:49 AM
 
Location: South Africa
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The whole concept of large families in the past was borne out lack of birth control, high infant mortality, low longevity amongst other factors.

My roots, both my mom and dad came from families of 7 and 9 respectively and I am from a family of 3 and I only have 2 children.

Seeing that we no longer till the fields, there is no need for big families. Once can effectively provide for replacement size families as the skill sets they require to survive in the modern world do not include farming.

But as we are now devolving where the previous idea of that all prepared to work would be guaranteed a job has gone by the wayside. Where I live, it is not uncommon to see the extended family coming back, kids caring for parents or parents having to accommodate thieir kids and grand kids.

I used to be the breadwinner in my household and made a huge salary, now whoever can find a job, however meager contributes to the household so that there is at least food on the table. We learned to adapt and thankfully I own everything and owe no one a cent. This makes it easier. We only have to cover utility bills.

So as for reducing your lifestyle, it is possible but not pleasant.

Now had I had 4 kids like I initially wanted, then my situation would have been far worse. We decided after 2 that was enough.

Communities of yore have gone, when I was rich, we helped the needy out with food hampers, bought them necessities like bed for their kids, gave money to some for surgeries and now that I am in the need department, there is no one to assist us. Not complaining but that is how the cookie crumbles. I essentially did everything right to provide a better life for my family than my dad was able to, got 3 degrees and all that good stuff but that means squat when the economic mechanisms fail and if you are over 50. Fortunately I am multi-skilled and when I do get a contract, it is like christmas, we get to eat steak my services are high earning but the clientele sadly is small.
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Old 04-18-2011, 09:16 PM
 
Location: Pacific Northwest
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Maybe it's time to consider some of the Native American prophecies, one in particular from the Cree goes like this. When all the trees have been cut down, when all the animals have been haunted, when all the waters are polluted, and all the air is unsafe to breathe, only then will you discover you cannot eat money.

There's another ancient Native American proverb. Treat the earth well. It was not given to you by your parents, it was loaned to you by your children. We do not inherit the Earth from our Ancestors, we borrow it from our Children.
I love that quote and agree completely with it. The problem is, isn't it a little hypocritical ? Seems to me it is. The native Americans are making a lot of money with their casinos and so maybe shouldn't be saying things like this anymore. I bet their ancestors are turning over in their graves.
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Old 04-18-2011, 09:34 PM
 
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i was reading that sometime next year that population of humans will reach 7 billion so when is enough,??? enough.!!! when will humans learn that there is only enough resources to sustain a fixed number of people on this planet.. remember everything has a limit, you can only get a fixed amount of sardines in one can..

whats your take.?? does it say in your bible that there is a limit,?? or does it just say keep breeding.??
I say, "End Health Care."

No more wasting money on 8 year degrees.

No more high health insurance.

No more insurance companies.

No more drug companies and dependancy.

No extended life care facilities where people gain added years.

This would eliminate much pollution, save lots of money, reduce the "carbon footprint" impact, and keep sick people from hanging around too long just using up resources.

Science has really had a negative impact on the "survival of the fittest." We are just living too darn long. Guess we shouldn't interfere with nature.

Maybe we could get rid of science too; more $avings.
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