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Nice post. While I judge peoples' beliefs from a logically or evidentially valid viewpoint, I don't judge them, not even if they simply refuse to accept clear evidence or logically rational constructs because that is what deep -seated conviction does to people. I have said that theism makes honest people dishonest (and I have said worse) but I don't mean that they suddenly become bad people any more than scientists who have or who acquire a religious belief necessarily become bad scientists.
All I say is that deeply held convictions can lead people into rejecting unwelcome evidence and even proof on the most logically tortured or flimsy grounds rather than give up their convictions and that (I have a firm and unshakable conviction )is not good.
Oh wow!! I didn't think I was "THAT" arrogant!...And besides.... I suspect that a little bit of arrogance is good for the soul!
It's been my experience that, whether atheist or Christian, if one is confident in what one believes, there's no need for arrogance or aggressiveness toward one another. Jesus was the perfect example of this attitude -- he didn't have to demean people to get His point across. He should be the only example to Christians as to how to treat people. I guess atheists have... Darwin?
Nice post. While I judge peoples' beliefs from a logically or evidentially valid viewpoint, I don't judge them, not even if they simply refuse to accept clear evidence or logically rational constructs because that is what deep -seated conviction does to people. I have said that theism makes honest people dishonest (and I have said worse) but I don't mean that they suddenly become bad people any more than scientists who have or who acquire a religious belief necessarily become bad scientists.
All I say is that deeply held convictions can lead people into rejecting unwelcome evidence and even proof on the most logically tortured or flimsy grounds rather than give up their convictions and that (I have a firm and unshakable conviction )is not good.
Don't you have a deeply held conviction that there is no God?
It's been my experience that, whether atheist or Christian, if one is confident in what one believes, there's no need for arrogance or aggressiveness toward one another. Jesus was the perfect example of this attitude -- he didn't have to demean people to get His point across.
"Ye serpents, ye generation of vipers"... Sounds rather demeaning to me.
Don't you have a deeply held conviction that there is no God?
That depends on whether on is talking about Sortagod or Biblegod.
I am firmly convinced after decades of debate and study that the God of the Bible has no reality. About other personal gods and Karma too for that matter I hold the same conviction. I don't know about 'deeply held'. They are firmly based but not to extent of closed - mindedness. I am of course open to persuasion.
About a Sorta god that one might call an Intelligent Cosmos, I am not so convinced. Like Richard Dawkins, I would say that a case can be made, but it isn't one that persuades me. I do not have deeply held convictions about Deist/Pantheist/Sortagod or even (thanks to Mystic's efforts) that there cannot be some conscious link of Humans with it.
I am convinced that such a god does not require me to pray to it.
"Ye serpents, ye generation of vipers"... Sounds rather demeaning to me.
I agree. That the Bible Jesus is gentle loving person rather than a spiteful and demeaning ratbag and a dishonest one, too, is one of the salient symptoms of selective blindness on the part of Christians.
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