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Old 05-12-2011, 02:27 PM
 
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Religious belief is human nature, huge new study claims

Well, my thoughts are this. I'm not going to throw it in anyone's faces. That's not who I am. I don't believe that just because this study came out, it's +1 for religion. Not at all. But it confirms what I have always speculated about human beings in general. I always felt the belief in God was in-bred inside of us. I don't know how or why but I have always felt this way. Sometimes I try to imagine myself as an Atheist. And I cannot. I find that I can't shake the idea of God no matter how hard I try or where I travel. God is in our everyday lives. Just looking at the vast universe or the stars or planets or mountains or beaches or islands or landscapes on Earth, loudly speaks it was beautifully created. I feel like believing in God is instinctual and always has been. No matter what culture or nation you come from, there is some God that people worship. Our soul regconizes a God no matter if we want to accept it mentally or physically in worship. He put that inside of us to get us to know that he is there and he DID create everything and we are his creations. That's just my feelings.
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Old 05-12-2011, 02:37 PM
 
Location: Victoria, BC.
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Sad commentary on the human condition, but this just makes me glad that I don't follow the herd. Hopefully we will continue to evolve away from archaic beliefs.
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Old 05-12-2011, 02:40 PM
 
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Here's a comment from the article that I found interesting. I hadn't even thought about things this way before.

"I tend to agree. The soupy plasma, big bang, complex organisms created out of total chaos is so unlikely (calculate those odds) as to be beyond possible. Scientists would have us believe that a random soup of particles (not even electrons, protons, neutrons at that point of time!), reached some critical mass, went through a sudden and massive expanse, formed electrons, protons, neutrons, which then formed elements, which then formed compounds, which then formed cells, etc,etc,etc, till we get to people. Yea right. You need a LOT more faith to believe THAT than God. To put total randomness into a cosmic clothes washer, put it on spin cycle for a billion years, and expect anything of such sophisticated design and order to come out is beyond belief. Even Dr. Flu (one time "leader" of atheism) and Einstein didn't carry those beliefs to the grave with them."
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Old 05-12-2011, 02:43 PM
 
Location: Victoria, BC.
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Here's a comment from the article that I found interesting. I hadn't even thought about things this way before.

"I tend to agree. The soupy plasma, big bang, complex organisms created out of total chaos is so unlikely (calculate those odds) as to be beyond possible. Scientists would have us believe that a random soup of particles (not even electrons, protons, neutrons at that point of time!), reached some critical mass, went through a sudden and massive expanse, formed electrons, protons, neutrons, which then formed elements, which then formed compounds, which then formed cells, etc,etc,etc, till we get to people. Yea right. You need a LOT more faith to believe THAT than God. To put total randomness into a cosmic clothes washer, put it on spin cycle for a billion years, and expect anything of such sophisticated design and order to come out is beyond belief. Even Dr. Flu (one time "leader" of atheism) and Einstein didn't carry those beliefs to the grave with them."
Now that had to be written by an ignorant religious person...It is just so wrong. By the way Roger Trigg is a professor of theology...Can you say bias?
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Old 05-12-2011, 03:05 PM
 
Location: Richland, Washington
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This doesn't in any way support the existence of a supreme being. This could be better explained by the fact that god beliefs have been passed down from many generations starting with the primitive people that didn't understand the world and therefore created explanations involving supernatural beings. This is why a lot of people look at the universe and make supernatural explanations for things they don't understand. It's because that mentality was passed down generation after generation and thus has been more ingrained in many people. Also, the idea that god is innate in human beings is rather questionable if you look at highly secular nations like Japan whose population is at least 65% atheist.
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Old 05-12-2011, 04:52 PM
 
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Oh... is that why every human culture in every part of the world that we have ever known existed practice (or practiced) some kind of religion?

I hope nobody paid money to do that study.
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Old 05-12-2011, 05:05 PM
 
Location: Sierra Nevada Land, CA
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Now that had to be written by an ignorant religious person...It is just so wrong. By the way Roger Trigg is a professor of theology...Can you say bias?
Oxford Professer an ignorant religious person?

Perhaps you should reconsider.

From the Article:
Trigg is co-director of the three-year Oxford-based project, which incorporated more than 40 different studies by dozens of researchers looking at countries from China to Poland and the United States to Micronesia.

Studies around the world came up with similar findings, including widespread belief in some kind of afterlife and an instinctive tendency to suggest that natural phenomena happen for a purpose.
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Old 05-12-2011, 05:22 PM
 
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Religion is Man's fears manifested. What do we fear? Death. Religion quells our fear of death somewhat. We also fear purposelessness. Religion also fills in that hole as well. So yeah I guess it's human nature for us to look for something to help quiet our fears. It's just something in our nature we need to grow beyond.
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Old 05-12-2011, 05:50 PM
 
Location: Victoria, BC.
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Oxford Professer an ignorant religious person?

Perhaps you should reconsider.

From the Article:
Trigg is co-director of the three-year Oxford-based project, which incorporated more than 40 different studies by dozens of researchers looking at countries from China to Poland and the United States to Micronesia.

Studies around the world came up with similar findings, including widespread belief in some kind of afterlife and an instinctive tendency to suggest that natural phenomena happen for a purpose.
Where did I call him ignorant? Do you think Roger Trigg wrote this? I don't.

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"I tend to agree. The soupy plasma, big bang, complex organisms created out of total chaos is so unlikely (calculate those odds) as to be beyond possible. Scientists would have us believe that a random soup of particles (not even electrons, protons, neutrons at that point of time!), reached some critical mass, went through a sudden and massive expanse, formed electrons, protons, neutrons, which then formed elements, which then formed compounds, which then formed cells, etc,etc,etc, till we get to people. Yea right. You need a LOT more faith to believe THAT than God. To put total randomness into a cosmic clothes washer, put it on spin cycle for a billion years, and expect anything of such sophisticated design and order to come out is beyond belief. Even Dr. Flu (one time "leader" of atheism) and Einstein didn't carry those beliefs to the grave with them."
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Old 05-12-2011, 06:33 PM
 
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Here's a comment from the article that I found interesting. I hadn't even thought about things this way before.

"I tend to agree. The soupy plasma, big bang, complex organisms created out of total chaos is so unlikely (calculate those odds) as to be beyond possible. Scientists would have us believe that a random soup of particles (not even electrons, protons, neutrons at that point of time!), reached some critical mass, went through a sudden and massive expanse, formed electrons, protons, neutrons, which then formed elements, which then formed compounds, which then formed cells, etc,etc,etc, till we get to people. Yea right. You need a LOT more faith to believe THAT than God. To put total randomness into a cosmic clothes washer, put it on spin cycle for a billion years, and expect anything of such sophisticated design and order to come out is beyond belief. Even Dr. Flu (one time "leader" of atheism) and Einstein didn't carry those beliefs to the grave with them."
Hmm......what about religions that believe in a god but do not believe that any god created the universe (the universe is eternal)?
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