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To this point it's been the standard process. We pose a question that the atheists/agnostics can't answer, and I get about 15 people who chime in with their silly distracting statements and insults. The original question gets lost because the scared little atheists don't answer it and instead just do personal attacks.
All I can say is: they can each only tell their own souls, or their own pains. ANd then of course the science is falsifiable.
A PhD in Divinity doesn't usually impress me much because I know so many of them are "honorary" doctorates which involved no study on the recipient's part at all.
All I can say is: they can each only tell their own souls, or their own pains. ANd then of course the science is falsifiable.
How can you falsify something like evolution or abiogenesis? They just make the statement that although we can't prove it....someday!!!!! someday we'll find out it's right!!!!!!!
Hmmm... you disagree with conventionalism, although, I think I disagreed as well. The truth is that I find that disagreeable to discover that science will solve nature for complexity as bad as it may get. Honestly.
Don't try to change the subject. Can you answer the question? Do you know when life began?
There you go again. You changed the question. Originally you thought you could trip somebody up by asking HOW life began. Now you want to know WHEN. What are you going to change it to next?
..... But, in Healthcare, a person's belief system can make a difference in their plan of care. So, usually a priest, or pastor is included on a treatment team if a person requests this.
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..... Yes, and we all know how that "plan of care" works out.....
I don't think Jasper is suggesting faith healing. More so a pastor is present for spiritual needs such as last rights, or talking the person through their illness from a religious perspective, while the doctors try and treat it.
jasper's post looked to me like a religious person was INCLUDED ON THE TEAM if the patient wanted it, not to be the source of healing. I wouldn't call "Faith Healing" health care, or ever refer to both in the same sentence under normal circumstances.
Fiyero, I'm assuming you meant last rites, which normally requires a Catholic priest.
There you go again. You changed the question. Originally you thought you could trip somebody up by asking HOW life began. Now you want to know WHEN. What are you going to change it to next?
I'm sorry....accidental misstatement.
Let's go with the original. How did life begin? I'll be waiting.
How can you falsify something like evolution or abiogenesis? They just make the statement that although we can't prove it....someday!!!!! someday we'll find out it's right!!!!!!!
I almost cannot believe you asked these questions. That you would even ask them proves that your knowledge of biology is woefully inadequate.
Evolution has been subjected to falsification, and has been proven valid, many many times.
Abiogenesis has not yet been directly reproduced. We know it is possible, but we just haven't found the right mix of conditions and materials yet - but we are closing in fast. If we did create artificial life, it would only prove that it was possible or perhaps even likely that abiogenesis occurred on Earth.
It would not necessarily rule out other possibilities, like panspermia.
Either way, your failure to grasp the science does not constitute problems with the science.
I almost cannot believe you asked these questions. That you would even ask them proves that your knowledge of biology is woefully inadequate.
Evolution has been subjected to falsification, and has been proven valid, many many times.
Whatever. Spare me the mocking act of surprise. We've all seen the hoaxes of "missing links". But for the sake of moving this along, there are plenty of threads on evolution we can take it to...let's talk origin of life.
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Abiogenesis has not yet been directly reproduced. We know it is possible, but we just haven't found the right mix of conditions and materials yet - but we are closing in fast. If we did create artificial life, it would only prove that it was possible or perhaps even likely that abiogenesis occurred on Earth.
No....we don't know it's possible. Scientists think it's possible because they have run experiments that kind of hint at it. The only other alternative is to believe in a creator. They aren't willing to do that.
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It would not necessarily rule out other possibilities, like panspermia.
Doesn't answer the question--only relocates the origin of life.
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Either way, your failure to grasp the science does not constitute problems with the science.
The problem is with you.
This is precisely the arrogant attitude I've referred to, and the complete lack of critical thinking. When I bring up the failures of abiogenesis to be proven...you point to panspermia...as if life originating on another planet somehow makes you a genius.
Yeah man, religious institutions' discussions are about published communication of trust and distrust and good value. The people are thus reputably discovering the meaning of life.
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