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Old 01-10-2012, 09:54 AM
 
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whereas in Jesus time nobody ate pig's meat.
I think that's a highly innacurate statement: NOBODY ate pig's flesh in Jesus' time?

Pigs have been consumed for countless ages, and archaeology has confirmed this. There was at least one people (the Israelites) who did not eat pork's flesh (and this is somewhat confirmed extra-biblically, once again, by finding no pig bones in Israelite sites) and the other ancient peoples (the Greeks and the Romans, for example) commented on this strange habit.

Why? Because eating pigs was relatively normal, AND people ate pigs in Jesus' time. Not everyone did, obviously, but most people did.

One possible explanation for why pigs were initially perceived to be unpopular among nomadic peoples or farmers and then banned in later tradition, is that pigs are one of the only animals that are raised - and during their lifetime, give absolutely nothing back to the farmer. Cows gives milk, Chickens give eggs, Goats give cheese, etc - Pigs give nothing, except flesh when they are slaughtered. Add to this the type of food that a pig eats (very similar to humans: almost anything) and you add a conflict of resources between the farmer and the pig.

Add these two together, and rather than having ancient peoples who somehow were scientfically "ahead of their time" concerning trichinosis, we can see a pretty practical reason why an ancient nomadic or pastoral peoples would eschew pork.
The cost of raising a pig for these people was just too much. Cities, on the other hand, really liked pork.

I, myself, can devour a pack of bacon in several seconds (once it's been cooked) - for it is one of the most divine foods we have. Yuuuum! SQUEAL, little piggy, and get inbetween my bread!
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Old 01-10-2012, 10:16 AM
 
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Smile A bitto the ol' piggy fat also makes my heart meds slide down easier!

Right on, whoppers! Now of course, that much satu-fat will be a tad bit hard on one's various arteries, but moderation, as sanspeur duly notes, will go a long ways to allowing you to really enjoy that burger.

Why just this morning, I had a single strip of...

.........wait.... I have a sharp pain in my chest...

Nope. A swig of good Bourbon and it went away!

Now where was I? Oh yeah....

here:

A Matter of Health? | United Church of God

Also known as "Hog-Swallop"! (burp... Ohh... excuse me!)
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Old 01-10-2012, 10:20 AM
 
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you people might want to look into what pigs eat before declaring them clean and safe to eat
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Old 01-10-2012, 10:28 AM
 
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you people might want to look into what pigs eat before declaring them clean and safe to eat
Well, if farmers fed them sweet feed instead of slop we wouldn't have to worry about it.

Country style ribs for dinner tonight!!!!!!!
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Old 01-10-2012, 10:31 AM
 
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you people might want to look into what pigs eat before declaring them clean and safe to eat
Pigs are omnivores, just as humans, bears, chickens, racoons and a large amount of insects. You are what you eat !!!!
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Old 01-10-2012, 10:44 AM
 
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you people might want to look into what pigs eat before declaring them clean and safe to eat
They eat what they are fed...It is up to the farmer to feed them properly.
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Old 01-10-2012, 10:53 AM
 
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who instruct Christians to use this meat at first?
Christianity if you look at the history of it had the ability to incorporate local and regional practices and symbols. I made it easier to spread the "faith" if you allow for some local practices to remain. My favorite is the Irish cross which is hybrid of the normal cross and pagan sun cross.

Celtic cross - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

So I don't think anyone instructed anyone to eat pork it was a local practice that was "allowed"/incorporated into that local Christian population
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http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/98/Monasterboice_12.jpg/220px- (broken link)
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Old 01-10-2012, 11:05 AM
 
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Coprophagia - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Pigs, like the above insects, will eat the feces of herbivores that leave a significant amount of semi-digested matter, including their own. In certain cultures it was common for poor families to collect horse feces to feed their pigs. However, allowing domestic pigs to consume feces contributes to the risk of parasite infection
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Old 01-10-2012, 11:09 AM
 
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Wink Nive juicvy tender mid-estern Pork shoulder, done low and slow! With Bourbon-BBQ sauce? Yum!

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you people might want to look into what pigs eat before declaring them clean and safe to eat
PS: I always enjoyed the highly inaccurate claim that bears are members of the pig family, so you can't eat them either!

The truth (take it from an old bear biologist...) is that bears carry, to this day, some Trichinella spiralis nematode infestations, along with rats, pigs and humans. Oh no! We're unclean!

Fact is, some of our "toilet" solid remains often contaminated the village drinking water, and so we gave it {and lots of other nice little bio-parasites that evolved in the primate gut over eons...} to ourselves, but also to any pigs we kept. Obviously we didn't keep pet rats or pet bears, so our concerns were obviously limited to our piggies. Which many of our ancestors kept around just to clean up after us! (also noted above...).

All you have to do is bring a wild bear roast's internal temp up to 160 - 165˚ F for only about 5 minutes, and bingo. And,,, it'll still be lightly pink and not all dried out. You do not have to turn it Rugby Ball hard and tough-grey all the way through, as my sainted but English-cooking-style mum used to do....

Don't know about cooking rats though. Anyone?

As for roast pork, it's all been thoroughly inspected and if it's USDA Grade A, it does not carry Trich. No more than beef routinely carries Spongiform Bovine Enchepalopathy (Mad cow! Denny Crane!). Trust them: it's your government after all: they work for you!

Feed and keep 'em clean, they are one of the nicest, cleanest and also most intelligent animals round. Hence, the ancient church was threatened by them!
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Old 01-10-2012, 11:39 AM
 
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Coprophagia - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Pigs, like the above insects, will eat the feces of herbivores that leave a significant amount of semi-digested matter, including their own. In certain cultures it was common for poor families to collect horse feces to feed their pigs. However, allowing domestic pigs to consume feces contributes to the risk of parasite infection
Also I have heard it eats mouse and mouse is vehicle of louse and flea and louse is vehicle of typhus. in addition, apparently pig's voice show it is not suitable for eating because its voice is like growl of tiger
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