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Old 06-28-2016, 11:53 AM
 
Location: On the brink of WWIII
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who instruct Christians to use this meat at first? whereas in Jesus time nobody ate pig's meat. Saint Jesus himself ate from sheep's meat a bit often?
Gotta love a great BBQ porker....
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Old 06-28-2016, 12:35 PM
 
Location: Booth Texas
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Pffft! Meat is tasteless these day...and all because they remove the fat! Give my a good pork chop with an inch of fat on it than these skinny 'lean' things you find today.
You eat pork?


O, Your goin to hell!
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Old 07-01-2017, 05:08 PM
 
Location: So. of Rosarito, Baja, Mexico
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On another point of view some people will not touch bacon or pork chops based upon Religious thinking or for the pigs looks or eating habits. By coincidence a TV commercial just showed some bacon and eggs being prepared on the grill. Same people will not bat an eyelash to eat eggs...guess they have never visited a farm to see what s chicken will eat off the ground...they love bugs.ú
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Old 07-01-2017, 05:30 PM
 
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How can anyone eat something this cute,oh it's so cute.
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Old 07-01-2017, 06:54 PM
 
Location: Southern Oregon
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How can anyone eat something this cute,oh it's so cute.
You've obviously never raised the darn things on a farm.
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Old 07-01-2017, 08:12 PM
 
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As an exercise in futility I waded through the whole thread and find two basic approaches that should be of interest: "God said it so just do it" and "the reason for this is...."
What is most fascinating is that some of those who say "God said it" about OTHER things say "the reason is..." about this.
What interests me most about the "God said it" approach is the idea that God would declare something wrong or "abominable" apparently on a whim: no rationale needed or used. The "might is right" approach if you look at it. What is most interesting is the insane extremes this can be carried to as in the current requirement in Jewish culture that meat and dairy have NO chance of mixing.... based on the prohibition against seething a kid in its mother's milk. Even a superficial look at that prohibition with the idea of finding a reason should indicate that it is a specific example of black magic or necromancy practiced in Canaan of the time, and the idea is to refrain from such magic (the use of magic or formulae to obtain benefits is an insult to the grace of God, but that's another subject). I'd say that mindless following of the formula prohibiting meat and dairy is a form of the magic the original prohibition was intended to curtail.
On the other side of the question, Jesus said that it is not what you put into your mouth that defiles you, but what comes out. Obviously that is a bit of hyperbole, but the point remains that there are comestibles that under some conditions are dangerous but not under others, and some that may be harmful if taken in too great a quantity. The human body is amazing in its capacity to process some toxins without harm, but that also varies greatly from person to person. The trick is to know what works for you, and not to require others to be bound by your limitations.
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Old 07-01-2017, 08:25 PM
 
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As an exercise in futility I waded through the whole thread and find two basic approaches that should be of interest: "God said it so just do it" and "the reason for this is...."

What is most fascinating is that some of those who say "God said it" about OTHER things say "the reason is..." about this.

What interests me most about the "God said it" approach is the idea that God would declare something wrong or "abominable" apparently on a whim: no rationale needed or used. The "might is right" approach if you look at it. What is most interesting is the insane extremes this can be carried to as in the current requirement in Jewish culture that meat and dairy have NO chance of mixing.... based on the prohibition against seething a kid in its mother's milk. Even a superficial look at that prohibition with the idea of finding a reason should indicate that it is a specific example of black magic or necromancy practiced in Canaan of the time, and the idea is to refrain from such magic (the use of magic or formulae to obtain benefits is an insult to the grace of God, but that's another subject). I'd say that mindless following of the formula prohibiting meat and dairy is a form of the magic the original prohibition was intended to curtail.

On the other side of the question, Jesus said that it is not what you put into your mouth that defiles you, but what comes out. Obviously that is a bit of hyperbole, but the point remains that there are comestibles that under some conditions are dangerous but not under others, and some that may be harmful if taken in too great a quantity. The human body is amazing in its capacity to process some toxins without harm, but that also varies greatly from person to person. The trick is to know what works for you, and not to require others to be bound by your limitations.
hmmmm .. so lets take the religious aspect out of it.


How does this proverb fit into the equation "You are what you eat" ?
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Old 07-01-2017, 09:19 PM
 
Location: S. Wales.
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It makes some of us meat (which we wouldn't deny) and some of us vegetables.
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Old 07-01-2017, 10:00 PM
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Location: Ontario, Canada
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hmmmm .. so lets take the religious aspect out of it.


How does this proverb fit into the equation "You are what you eat" ?
Pigs are highly intelligent and powerful.
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Old 07-02-2017, 10:53 AM
 
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who instruct Christians to use this meat at first? whereas in Jesus time nobody ate pig's meat. Saint Jesus himself ate from sheep's meat a bit often?

The pagans. Pigs are unclean and not a food in Judaism. Pigs are sort of a "cockroach's" of land, just as shellfish are the "cockroachs" of water, and unclean birds that eat carrion are the "cockroaches" of the air. Peace
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