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Really, well I dont know what your reading, but Jesus was born in Nazareth whichNazarethHebrew transcription(s) • Hebrewנָצְרַת (Natz'rat or Na'tzeret; Naṣ'rath in Biblical Hebrew) •
Oh it exists now. But it was purposely populated after Jesus was said to have died. It wasn't a city when Jesus was said to be alive.
The expression 'Jesus of Nazareth' is actually a bad translation of the original Greek 'Jesous o Nazoraios' - 'Jesus the Nazarene'. Nazarene wasn't a place, it was a description of the Jewish-Christian sect – a faction, or off-shoot, of the Essenes.
But I would appreciate Daniels, Whoppers, Mirca, or some other person knowledgeable about this issue to chime in.
[b]We as creationist believe and have seen many facts and evidence.
Fact are supported by verifiable evidence. Where is your verifiable evidence for 'creation'?
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With an Atheist regarding debate and or discussion it will be semantics, muddling along with ignoring any post with history or evidence then they twist and distort there reasonings which are absurd, they act as if nothing was ever presented to them.
Damn!!! That's another irony meter gone!!!
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Originally Posted by sarah888
Really, well I dont know what your reading, but Jesus was born in Nazareth
The verifiable objective evidence says that there was no Nazareth in the first century CE...and even if there was, it was certainly not a 'city' as described in your 'infallible' Bible nor was it even big enough to have a synagogue as your Bible claims.
Odd thing all this. I had heard of "Catholic Fundamentalists," but never saw the words of one until now. They sound like Protestant Fundamentalist/Evangelicals who go to Mass. Having been brought up in Cistercian and Jesuit schools in the 60s and 70s, this is really an odd thing for me to read. I simply cannot imagine any of the Cistercians or Jesuits speaking in a literalist way.
I bet these are the same people who see Vatican II as an invalid council, all Popes elected since Vatican II as being invalid and that Modernism promotes heresies.
Sarah....come back! We won't laugh at you, well not much anyway!
Thanks for that. It is a forgivable slip.. and I'm sure we would all love to hear ourselves and all our vaunted Bible -knowledge shown to be false by Sarah's extensive Bible- knowledge ...I'm not being sarcastic...really...don't del......gooooooooooooooooo
Thanks for that. It is a forgivable slip.. and I'm sure we would all love to hear ourselves and all our vaunted Bible -knowledge shown to be false by Sarah's extensive Bible- knowledge ...I'm not being sarcastic...really...don't del......gooooooooooooooooo
She's probably over in the Xian forum at this moment telling all the adoring acolytes about how little atheists know about the Bible!
That depends what you consider as 'evidence'. If you consider the 2000 year old ramblings of desert sunstroke victims - edited and altered over time by people with an agenda for power and control - as 'evidence' then you could say there was evidence, though it is neither objective nor verifiable.
Only according to your Bible and a splatter of other religious works
History that is verifiable can't be rebuked. If your Jesus stories contained any verifiable evidence then they would be very difficult to rebuke it, they don't and therefore are very easy to rebuke.
They are believers...just like you!
...and these 'miracles' would be - what exactly.
It's not 'fact', it's nothing more than your BELIEFS.
Stay over in the 'Christianity' forum then.
...but if you do stay, PLEASE stop bolding your text. It's not necessary and it doesn't make what you are saying any more believable. All it does is make extra work in editing to answer you.
Yes, Jesus of Nazareth existed as a historical man. No, he was not a theological construct. There are enough historical witnesses to verify this as fact. Lee Strobel did a great job answering this question in his book The Case for Christ. with convincing evidence on this subject and educational research.
Yes, Jesus was a real, HISTORICAL person. Read Josephus, the historian and orthodox Jew who speaks of Jesus. 4th Century monks can be thanked for our writings from Josephus. He was real. Even if you don't believe He was the Son of God, there are established histories that place Him there at the time.
After summarizing the references to Jesus Christ and his followers by the historians of the first two centuries, The Encyclopedia Britannica (2002 edition) concludes: These independent accounts prove that in ancient times even the opponents of Christianity never doubted the historicity of Jesus."
Thanks for that. It is a forgivable slip.. and I'm sure we would all love to hear ourselves and all our vaunted Bible -knowledge shown to be false by Sarah's extensive Bible- knowledge ...I'm not being sarcastic...really...don't del......gooooooooooooooooo
You lack wisdom so you have nothing. You cannot comprehend or understand biblical history with just a bit of knowledge, also you need to learn about the historic Jesus first, then you may grasp, absorb and understand the Man/God.
Sarah
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More evidence that fundies know very little about what they proclaim to be 'Truth' (capital 'T' for added effect)
and I'm sure we would all love to hear ourselves and all our vaunted Bible -knowledge shown to be false by Sarah's extensive Bible- knowledge ...I'm not being sarcastic...really...don't del......gooooooooooooooooo
