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I don't see a problem teaching the holes of evolution or the holes of any theory, if we discover something else from it, or clarify the gap and move forward, wonderful because that is how science is supposed to work, it doesn't have all the answers but it continues to grow and change, we should also grow and change and understand along with it, not cling to "GOD" and the ignorance of religion.
If you really believed what you wrote - then you would not be opposed to the Tennessee law - because it provides the opportunity for those holes to be discussed - if the students are interested in testing the actual merits of the theory of evolution. You are against placing the TOE under any scrutiny - which is rather un-scientific. I think students should be given both sides of a controversial topic so that they may form there own conclusions. Apparently, you think they should just be spoon fed dogma from one side - and not be encouraged to think for themselves.
High School students should be taught to think critically - not be obedient robots regurgitating tenets of a flawed theory.
I'm sorry Eusebius, you need to open your eyes to the world around you which is filled with evidence of recent evolutionary changes, every day.
Have you ever watched two teenagers standing 10 feet apart communicating only through texting on their smartphones - how soon before a generation void of vocal chords??
Well according to evolutionists it will take something along the lines of 50 million years - nevermind that no one will be around to witness the change from homo sapiens ability to talk to their total muteness due to the proliferation of texting - just as no one can witness how a single cell amoeba through a series of mutations magically become a complex multi-cell organism over approximately the same period of time. Fiction is great - but it is really stretching things to teach pure conjecture based on flimsy assumptions as FACT to impressionable children - when none of this can be observed - let alone "proved".
If you really believed what you wrote - then you would not be opposed to the Tennessee law - because it provides the opportunity for those holes to be discussed - if the students are interested in testing the actual merits of the theory of evolution. You are against placing the TOE under any scrutiny - which is rather un-scientific. I think students should be given both sides of a controversial topic so that they may form there own conclusions. Apparently, you think they should just be spoon fed dogma from one side - and not be encouraged to think for themselves.
High School students should be taught to think critically - not be obedient robots regurgitating tenets of a flawed theory.
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Originally Posted by Harrier
Well according to evolutionists it will take something along the lines of 50 million years - never mind that no one will be around to witness the change from homo sapiens ability to talk to their total muteness due to the proliferation of texting - just as no one can witness how a single cell amoeba through a series of mutations magically become a complex multi-cell organism over approximately the same period of time. Fiction is great - but it is really stretching things to teach pure conjecture based on flimsy assumptions as FACT to impressionable children - when none of this can be observed - let alone "proved".
These two posts eloquently show why Creationism cannot be discussed in the science class.
It ignores the fact that nobody can go back and watch how the Romans spread their culture over Britain. Nobody can go back and watch what happened at a crime scene. But we can examine the evidence left behind and come to sound conclusions. The evidence for evolution does all that and more, in spades.
And creationists was to dismiss all that the way you did and claim 'it cannot be observed' - which it can - but not one species transforming into a different one overnight, and so it is dismissed and denied and it is proposed that a mythical tale of supernatural wand- waving be introduced into the science classes instead.
Are you serious? Because your post above show just what 'testing of the actual merits of evolution' would amount to. Creationist teachers would feed their pupils the non - science, misrepresentation and dishonesty that infects the generality of Creationist polemic, and evolution theory would not get a fair deal.
That alone, even if were not the demonstrated case that neither Creationism nor ID are soundly - based science, which is the reason why it does not get generally published by science, reviewed by science and should not be taught AS science, is the reason why it cannot be given the totally undeserved credibility of sharing a platform with reputable science.
If you really believed what you wrote - then you would not be opposed to the Tennessee law - because it provides the opportunity for those holes to be discussed - if the students are interested in testing the actual merits of the theory of evolution. You are against placing the TOE under any scrutiny - which is rather un-scientific. I think students should be given both sides of a controversial topic so that they may form there own conclusions. Apparently, you think they should just be spoon fed dogma from one side - and not be encouraged to think for themselves.
High School students should be taught to think critically - not be obedient robots regurgitating tenets of a flawed theory.
As soon as Creationism/ID is placed under any scrutiny at all, it would be incredibly obvious that it isn't a scientific Theory and is just spoon fed religious dogma.
The problem is, as we can see on forums like this, is that there will be some students who will refuse to even try to think critically about any evidence that contradicts their Bible. This is likely to lead to a lot of wasted time in the classroom arguing over religious beliefs that should not be in a science class in the first place.
As soon as Creationism/ID is placed under any scrutiny at all, it would be incredibly obvious that it isn't a scientific Theory and is just spoon fed religious dogma.
The problem is, as we can see on forums like this, is that there will be some students who will refuse to even try to think critically about any evidence that contradicts their Bible. This is likely to lead to a lot of wasted time in the classroom arguing over religious beliefs that should not be in a science class in the first place.
But creationism/ID is not allowed in schools. So what are you worried about? What would happen if we put evolution under scrutiny? Well I guess we'll find out in Ten...
But creationism/ID is not allowed in schools. So what are you worried about? What would happen if we put evolution under scrutiny? Well I guess we'll find out in Ten...
Do you think the Tennesseeans are the first to think of putting evolutionary theory under scrutiny? It has been under quite intense scrutiny for more or less 150 years.
Do you think the Tennesseeans are the first to think of putting evolutionary theory under scrutiny? It has been under quite intense scrutiny for more or less 150 years.
Right because outlawing creationism (in a country where 78% of the population is Christian) and allowing ONLY evolution (without any weaknesses) was "intense scrutiny".
As soon as Creationism/ID is placed under any scrutiny at all, it would be incredibly obvious that it isn't a scientific Theory and is just spoon fed religious dogma.
Then you should have no problem with the Tennessee law - it provides the opportunity to refute any objections to you theory.
Oh, my. Creationism was never outlawed. Trying to pass it off as science was. At least tell the truth.
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