Why are some Atheist obsessed with Religion? And some Religious obsessed with Atheism? (punishment, miracles)
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No, I believe suffering is a form of purgation, which soothes the soul and cleans it. Sometimes we suffer for our own good, or reasons only God understands.
Sarah
So you believe God does not interviene to help sick Christian who pray for relief.
And you believe the reason for this is that God prefers Christians to suffer because suffering soothes the soul and cleans it.
So you believe God does not interviene to help sick Christian who pray for relief.
And you believe the reason for this is that God prefers Christians to suffer because suffering soothes the soul and cleans it.
Interesting.
Lol, chistianity is very much like Verimark™ marketing. Jesus died for your sins, he answers prayers, But wait.....there's more
Till eventually none of the promises are relevant and you are left with the "free One Time gift" extra that no one really wanted in the first place.
Pretty ironic that jesus is supposed to have taken the whole burden of humanity on his shoulders and restored to Eden yet man still has to grovel and suck up and hope that in the end, all their pithy works will count for something.
Just another example of folk making stuff up as they go along to hold onto their delusions.
Ironic to as the curse on the serpent (forced to crawl on his belly and eat dust et al.) really seems to have rubbed off on the modern christian.
Pity folk cannot see they live their lives in subjugation to an entity who is not there or at the very least don't give two hoots about their well being despite the Verimark™ claims
THE SALES PITCH:
If you believe, you will receive whatever you ask for in prayer. Matthew 21:22
DISCLAIMER:
Actually, sometimes God will answer your prayers with a "no."
THE FINE PRINT ON THE BACK OF THE CONTRACT:
God actually prefers to see you suffer, so those prayers are expressly not covered under the terms of this agreement.
Funny how athiest along with thiest blame God for all the evil in the world , when man is truly responsible for such things. God does permit evil in the world as something good always comes from it. God can intervene anytime he wants, however there is always a bigger purpose for him not to do so. We all learn from our mistakes and we grow. It is a lesson. Why people are starving in Africa is mans fault not Gods it is up to us, God does help us when we help ourselves. God does not enjoy evil, he permits it for a greater good for mankind.
Its obvious that I disagree with many Christian interpitations, but I am not obsessed with that; I consider Christianity as I do Atheism, two groups destined to be what they are. In my view, the whole world has been deceived, because God unleashed a being called the Serpent that is obsessed with confusing all of humanity in every single area that he can. And he has done exactly that.
And thats WHY none of us are condemned. All of our consciousness's have been seriously affected by this thing called the god of this earth, who literally surcharges his deception by using the very air that we breathe in everyday.
The confusion is NOT our fault! And God willNOT blame us for it!
Its obvious that I disagree with many Christian interpitations, but I am not obsessed with that; I consider Christianity as I do Atheism, two groups destined to be what they are. In my view, the whole world has been deceived, because God unleashed a being called the Serpent that is obsessed with confusing all of humanity in every single area that he can. And he has done exactly that.
And thats WHY none of us are condemned. All of our consciousness's have been seriously affected by this thing called the god of this earth, who literally surcharges his deception by using the very air that we breathe in everyday.
The confusion is NOT our fault! And God willNOT blame us for it!
In your view, what was the point of God unleashing the Serpent?
This is manipulation on behalf of God, this unleashing of the serpent( it is a parable, like the Adam-Eve Story, even many people of ancient times realized the story aspect.
Here is the proof:
If God wanted to test people or what have you and made a decision to unleash the serpant as suggested,
Then the qualifying question becomes:
What fairness of test is it, when the serpent offers only a rotting degrading product in result of following? There is no fairness, it is rigged against the serpent, therefore the game of test as a contrived effort on behalf of God is illogical due to total unfair ability in the serpents court.
It is a parable, much is theater as in Shakespeare. Man learns by example and stories, its how we teach toddlers. The science of reality could not even be absolutely understood to present day man if fully revealed in visual fashion, we know this, its far too dynamic....never mind pin-pointing the exact thinking and nature of Gods decisions...thats why we and the ancient folks have parables, were only human with our human mind.
Plus attention to and allowing a distraction of.....the active degrading weakness in man seen in rare but highly broadcast occurrence is illogical in forming an understanding because it offers all dis-order , a product of non-realism...therefore not much can be learned other then the potential. Once the potential is known, further interest is questionable .... Otherwise self comprehensions become "all about" not being in, non-realism....instead of striving toward being in, and all about realism.
Funny how athiest along with thiest blame God for all the evil in the world , when man is truly responsible for such things. God does permit evil in the world as something good always comes from it. God can intervene anytime he wants, however there is always a bigger purpose for him not to do so. We all learn from our mistakes and we grow. It is a lesson. Why people are starving in Africa is mans fault not Gods it is up to us, God does help us when we help ourselves. God does not enjoy evil, he permits it for a greater good for mankind.
Sarah
Atheists do not blame god for anything. How could we when we do not believe in any god...It's true that atheists often point out atrocities in the bible that are ordered or committed by god, but that is only because we find it incredible that anyone can believe such an entity exists and is actually worshiped by theists.
Everything, good or bad on this earth can be attributed to either natural causes, circumstance or to humans...There are no miracles, nor are there god wrought punishments.
Theres no such person who is in-capable of feeling gratitude.
Therefore there is no such person who is incapable of feeling grateful-thankfulness ( say a good check up at the dentist
Therefore there is no such person who does not believe in a God because....there is absolutely no other destination for the focus...."already composed" to go!!!
Therefore there is no such thing as an atheist, who da figured? well whats next UFO's?
I will try to get some clips.
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