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Old 04-19-2012, 12:26 PM
 
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Money is any object or record that is generally accepted as payment for goods and services and repayment of debts in a given country or socio-economic context.[1][2][3] The main functions of money are distinguished as: a medium of exchange; a unit of account; a store of value; and, occasionally in the past, a standard of deferred payment.[4][5] Any kind of object or secure verifiable record that fulfills these functions can serve as money.

Coins were invented in 600 B.C stop reading a book written by superstitious bronze age primitives
Stop reading internet trash which subverts the historical facts found in the Bible.

Abraham gave 400 silver shekels for the purchase of the tomb for his deceased wife Sarah:

Gen 23:15 No lord! Hear me. The land is four hundred shekels of silver.
What is that between me and you? Your dead entomb.
Gen 23:16 And hearkening is Abraham to Ephron. And weighing is
Abraham for Ephron the silver of which he spoke in the ears of the sons of
Heth, four hundred shekels of silver, passing with the merchant.

The shekel was used prior to Rome taking over Israel and is still used today.

Abraham was hardly a "bronze age primitive":

"When Sir Leonard Woolley rediscovered ancient Ur in the 1920s, he found stupendous royal treasures but he also found a city rich in more everyday items. Abraham, like others at Ur, may have lived in a two-story house made of brick and boasting a courtyard, reception rooms, a kitchen, bedrooms, even a toilet. His wife Sarah, like other women in the city, may have worn intricately designed headdresses and other jewelry. Abraham and Sarah would even have enjoyed music. Woolley discovered a beautifully carved lyre overlayed with gold at Ur’s royal cemetery. The ancient Mesopotamians were well versed in music; cuneiform tablets containing musical notations and dating to about1800 B.C.E. have been unearthed at Ugarit, in northwestern Mesopotamia." http://cojs.org/cojswiki/Biblical_Hi..._Feldman,_COJS.

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Old 04-19-2012, 12:29 PM
 
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WND???? For goodness sake man. You're getting worse by the day.
I also quoted the Israel National News Joseph Era Coins Found in Egypt - Defense/Middle East - News - Israel National News which stated coins found with Joseph on them, or do you think they are buffoons too?

The WND is accurate. Just because you object to it proves nothing.
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Old 04-19-2012, 12:41 PM
 
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Stop reading internet trash which subverts the historical facts found in the Bible.

Abraham gave 400 silver shekels for the purchase of the tomb for his deceased wife Sarah:

Gen 23:15 No lord! Hear me. The land is four hundred shekels of silver.
What is that between me and you? Your dead entomb.
Gen 23:16 And hearkening is Abraham to Ephron. And weighing is
Abraham for Ephron the silver of which he spoke in the ears of the sons of
Heth, four hundred shekels of silver, passing with the merchant.

The shekel was used prior to Rome taking over Israel and is still used today.

no i read real research by real archeologists that do years of research in the field and FYI the bible is a fiction and forgery written by unknown authors which is already debunked by Israeli archeology coins weren't used before 600 B.C
a shekel is a UNIT OF WEIGHT of currency not coin


and where are the pictures of these alleged coins?
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Old 04-19-2012, 12:44 PM
 
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I also quoted the Israel National News Joseph Era Coins Found in Egypt - Defense/Middle East - News - Israel National News which stated coins found with Joseph on them, or do you think they are buffoons too?

The WND is accurate. Just because you object to it proves nothing.
I'll take the word of the British Museum over WND..... if it's all the same to you.
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Old 04-19-2012, 12:47 PM
 
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no i read real research by real archeologists that do years of research in the field and FYI the bible is a fiction and forgery written by unknown authors which is already debunked by Israeli archeology coins weren't used before 600 B.C
a shekel is a UNIT OF WEIGHT of currency not coin


and where are the pictures of these alleged coins?
You have Google. Search it out yourself.
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Old 04-19-2012, 12:48 PM
 
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I'll take the word of the British Museum over WND..... if it's all the same to you.
So the British Museum is wrong. Get over it. Obviously Israel doesn't know ancient coins.
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Old 04-19-2012, 12:50 PM
 
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You have Google. Search it out yourself.
the people who reported the story didn't produce any pictures of these cons with a pic of joseph on them

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So the British Museum is wrong. Get over it. Obviously Israel doesn't know ancient coins
and the bronze age primitive book of yours the bible is right?
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Old 04-19-2012, 12:58 PM
 
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the people who reported the story didn't produce any pictures of these cons with a pic of joseph on them



and the bronze age primitive book of yours the bible is right?
You got it.

"When Sir Leonard Woolley rediscovered ancient Ur in the 1920s, he found stupendous royal treasures but he also found a city rich in more everyday items. Abraham, like others at Ur, may have lived in a two-story house made of brick and boasting a courtyard, reception rooms, a kitchen, bedrooms, even a toilet. His wife Sarah, like other women in the city, may have worn intricately designed headdresses and other jewelry. Abraham and Sarah would even have enjoyed music. Woolley discovered a beautifully carved lyre overlayed with gold at Ur’s royal cemetery. The ancient Mesopotamians were well versed in music; cuneiform tablets containing musical notations and dating to about1800 B.C.E. have been unearthed at Ugarit, in northwestern Mesopotamia." http://cojs.org/cojswiki/Biblical_Hi..._Feldman,_COJS.
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Old 04-19-2012, 12:58 PM
 
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So the British Museum is wrong.
Claims he that presents WND as reliable! Obviously you didn't learn anything whilst you were on holiday.

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Old 04-19-2012, 01:01 PM
 
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Getting back to my point that Joseph really was in Egypt:

Top Egyptian Daily: Joseph’s Era Coins Found in Egypt

An Egyptian paper claims that archaeologists have discovered ancient Egyptian coins bearing the
name and image of the Biblical Joseph.

The report in Al-Ahram boasts that the find backs up the Koran’s claim that coins were used in Egypt
during Joseph’s period. Joseph, son of the Patriarch Jacob, died around 1450 B.C.E., according to
Jewish sources.

"The researcher identified coins from many different periods, including coins that bore special
markings identifying them as being from the era of Joseph. Among these, there was one coin that
had an inscription on it, and an image of a cow symbolizing Pharaoh's dream about the seven fat
cows and seven lean cows, and the seven green stalks of grain and seven dry stalks of grain. It was
found that the inscriptions of this early period were usually simple, since writing was still in its early
stages, and consequently there was difficulty in deciphering the writing on these coins. But the
research team [managed to] translate [the writing on the coin] by comparing it to the earliest
known hieroglyphic texts… Joseph's name appears twice on this coin, written in hieroglyphs: once
the original name, Joseph, and once his Egyptian name, Saba Sabani, which was given to him by
Pharaoh when he became treasurer. There is also an image of Joseph, who was part of the Egyptian
administration at the time." Joseph Era Coins Found in Egypt - Defense/Middle East - News - Israel National News

Also: Leading Egyptian Daily 'Al-Ahram' Reports: Coins from Era of Biblical Joseph Found in Egypt Leading Egyptian Daily 'Al-Ahram' Reports: Coins from Era of Biblical Joseph Found in Egypt

Thought the above interesting in proving the story of Joseph was legit.
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