Judge Not...meaning? (gospel, quote, Biblically, Jewish)

[Karlonemillion]

Does Judge Not lest you be judged mean, that if you judge someone as being fat and gay, you in turn will be judged as being fat and gay?

[Katzpur]

Originally Posted by Karlonemillion

Does Judge Not lest you be judged mean, that if you judge someone as being fat and gay, you in turn will be judged as being fat and gay?

I'm pretty sure this isn't even a serious question, but here's my answer: No. It means if you are judgmental, watch out. What goes around comes around.

[Basiliximab]

Originally Posted by Karlonemillion

Does Judge Not lest you be judged mean, that if you judge someone as being fat and gay, you in turn will be judged as being fat and gay?

I have always understood it to mean do not judge others for you can just as readily be judged in turn (not for being exactly the same as what you're judging the other person to be however). Similar to the saying about removing the plank in your own eye before the speck in your neighbors (probably did not get it exact). Basically you shouldn't be pointing out everyone else's faults when you have just as many.

[mikebnllnb]

Originally Posted by Karlonemillion

Does Judge Not lest you be judged mean, that if you judge someone as being fat and gay, you in turn will be judged as being fat and gay?

God is going to judge me for being fat????!!!!??? Uh-Oh I'm in trouble now!!! Getting out the sweating to the oldies VHS tapes right away. Which is not at all gay by the way. Now where did I put that VCR?

[Karlonemillion]

The reason I ask is because I used to work for in a recording studio and my boss would fall asleep sometimes during the sessions. One time a gospel group came in, said they were tired from the night before and many of them also fell asleep. Keep in mind it's loud in the studio. One time I recorded my Jewish friend, and by the end of the session, he was falling asleep on the console, around 7pm. Another one of my friends who works in the studio, told me (unprovoked) he's afraid he falls asleep in class.
It makes me wonder if I'm biblically cursed to fall asleep during the day.

[WhipperSnapper 88]

Originally Posted by Karlonemillion

Does Judge Not lest you be judged mean, that if you judge someone as being fat and gay, you in turn will be judged as being fat and gay?

No. The whole judge not lest ye be judged thing is very much misunderstood. We judge as humans. It's only natural. Not only do we judge but we have to judge. We have to examine the actions of others to determine our own choices. What that verse means, is that you should not judge someone negatively for doing something you also do.

Say for example, I am a 400 lb. man judging someone for being a glutton. That would be wrong. It isn't meant to imply we shouldn't judge at all though.

[Katzpur]

Originally Posted by WhipperSnapper 88

What that verse means, is that you should not judge someone negatively for doing something you also do.

I disagree. There is nothing in the context of that verse to imply that we're supposed to refrain from judging people only if we're guilty of the same sin.

Say for example, I am a 400 lb. man judging someone for being a glutton. That would be wrong. It isn't meant to imply we shouldn't judge at all though.

We have to judge certain behaviors as being something we personally choose not to engage in, but when we're told not to judge lest we be judged, I think it means not "passing judgment on" (i.e. condemning) another person. We should leave that to God, because He alone knows all of the circumstances surrounding a person's choices.

[purehuman]

all it means is that if you judge someone...be it fairly or not..be aware that someone else will also be judging you.

[Ilene Wright]

Hmmmm.......I always thought that verse meant that do not judge others because "god" is watching and judging you as well. Keeping tabs, so to speak.

[MysticPhD]

Originally Posted by Katzpur

I disagree. There is nothing in the context of that verse to imply that we're supposed to refrain from judging people only if we're guilty of the same sin.
We have to judge certain behaviors as being something we personally choose not to engage in, but when we're told not to judge lest we be judged, I think it means not "passing judgment on" (i.e. condemning) another person. We should leave that to God, because He alone knows all of the circumstances surrounding a person's choices.

Amen, Katz!! WE have no business in the judging role nor the condemning role nor the punishing role. God is responsible for His laws and their enforcement, period . . . not fallible human beings.