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Old 11-02-2017, 08:49 PM
 
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Has anyone else ever noticed a distinct paranoid tone to some of the Psalms?

Obviously, I'm not referring to the more popular ones. They are usually seen as being uplifting and joyful. But there is a turn in some of the later Psalms to a definite "darker" tone.

I'm not pointing the finger at anyone. I think the reason that the Psalms have endured for so long in popularity is because they speak to something that is common inside of all men.

Not just believers, but nonbelievers as well.
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Old 11-03-2017, 12:04 AM
 
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Oh, people noticed, and gave them their own classification: imprecatory psalms.
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Old 11-03-2017, 05:08 AM
 
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Oh, people noticed, and gave them their own classification: imprecatory psalms.
I guess that is the classification. But I'm looking at just one aspect.

It seems like it's the attitude of a minority group living within a larger oppressive majority society. The existence of the Psalms would give credence to things like the Black Lives Matter type groups. The Jews were at that point a minority group in that ancient empire.

The reason I reject Christianity today is because the American form of it seems like the evil empire in Star Wars. The true church should more closely resemble the rebels, which would be on the side of progressive social justice. And the Christians in America are certainly not like that. They are much more into supporting and giving more and more power to the upper classes.
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Old 11-03-2017, 10:40 AM
 
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I guess that is the classification. But I'm looking at just one aspect.

It seems like it's the attitude of a minority group living within a larger oppressive majority society. The existence of the Psalms would give credence to things like the Black Lives Matter type groups. The Jews were at that point a minority group in that ancient empire.

The reason I reject Christianity today is because the American form of it seems like the evil empire in Star Wars. The true church should more closely resemble the rebels, which would be on the side of progressive social justice. And the Christians in America are certainly not like that. They are much more into supporting and giving more and more power to the upper classes.
Considering many of them were written under dire circumstances, they reflect the mood of the writer at the time.
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Old 11-03-2017, 12:14 PM
 
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I guess that is the classification. But I'm looking at just one aspect.

It seems like it's the attitude of a minority group living within a larger oppressive majority society. The existence of the Psalms would give credence to things like the Black Lives Matter type groups. The Jews were at that point a minority group in that ancient empire.

The reason I reject Christianity today is because the American form of it seems like the evil empire in Star Wars. The true church should more closely resemble the rebels, which would be on the side of progressive social justice. And the Christians in America are certainly not like that. They are much more into supporting and giving more and more power to the upper classes.
"Black Lives Matter type groups" aren't calling for the destruction of enemies, but rather that people's lives be valued, regardless of race.
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Old 11-03-2017, 01:14 PM
 
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"Black Lives Matter type groups" aren't calling for the destruction of enemies, but rather that people's lives be valued, regardless of race.
Actually....BLM chanted that they wanted dead cops and "pigs in blankets".
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Old 11-03-2017, 01:22 PM
 
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Actually....BLM chanted that they wanted dead cops and "pigs in blankets".
There are fringe elements within any movement. (Hmmm, maybe the people wanting to see police killed are fans of imprecatory psalms.)

There are Christians who want to kill homosexuals, too.
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Old 11-03-2017, 01:28 PM
 
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There are fringe elements within any movement. (Hmmm, maybe the people wanting to see police killed are fans of imprecatory psalms.)

There are Christians who want to kill homosexuals, too.
Yes, there are fringe types in every movement. But it does not necessarily indicate the larger movement is like that, or that those values are indicative of the movement.

In the imprecatory Psalms, we read Psalms written by David as he was being chased by a mad king. We also read Psalms written by people that were oppressed by their enemies. THey are not commands to DO those things, but it does reflect the mood of the people that are suffering.
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