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Old 05-16-2012, 09:57 PM
 
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I could point out that homosexuality is listed among the worst sins like murder, adultery, drunkenness, etc.
You'd have to cherry pick and butcher the Bible in the wrong language and context to do so, but Conservatives are great at corrupting the Bible to justify hate and bigotry.

 
Old 05-16-2012, 10:10 PM
 
Location: Point Hope Alaska
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At what point does attraction become lust though? These are serious questions.Very serious. Sometimes, I find the bible to be vague about stuff.

When that happens and you want more info: Read said passage again.

Use the footnotes (If you have a study bible) to find additional same theme type answers etc.

The Marked Reference Bible is perhaps the easiest one to understand for a person new to bible study.

Much of the text is highlighted by one of four different colors.

Red -Yellow- Blue - Green

Sin -Blessings -Prophecy - Holy Spirit .. I used one in the late 60's. I haven't used one of that type since.

But any good STUDY bible will provide massive amounts of information for you to learn.

For serious Bible study it is an absolute MUST to use Strongs Exhaustive Concordence.

With that reference book you can look up the ORIGINAL Hebrew word (used) or the orignal Greek word (used) and find out the exact meanings.

Strongs Exhaustive Concordence is perphaps the most amazing book ever written (when you take the time to think about this

over 100 men spent 35 years! Putting that book together!! Their whole lives work! And you can purchase that for less than 1 hours pay. (20$) For some people!!

That book is a must to have if you REALLY WANT TO LEARN!

The bible is not meant to be read like a regular book. (Start reading and keep advancing). NOPE!! Over & Over again the bible says certain things many times; ;It never says something just once- there are always other references to draw more info from. My point is: - Search as for hidden treasure Proverbs 2 - dwell and meditate on certain verses. Each verse is "pregnant" with meaning(s).

This is a spiritual book - a living book - Basic Instructions Before Leaving Earth

I was fooled - deceived @ a young age into XXX THEN xxx CAME along and said - this is the truth. I didn't believe them one bit So I set out to LEARN this book in a very unique way & method. I wanted to know the truth - I was tired of hearing B.S.!

The new testament (covenant/agreement/contract) explains the Old (covenant/agreement/contract) Not the other way around.

Read - The 4 gospels 7 times each before you begin a new book. When I read a book (in scripture) I read it 7 times. Then I have a much better understanding of ALL that is contained in that book and what the central message and theme is. I'm TIRED OF BEING LIED TO.

Hide the "word" in your heart - NO ONE CAN EVER TAKE THAT AWAY!

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Old 05-16-2012, 10:19 PM
 
Location: WA
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I could point out that homosexuality is listed among the worst sins like murder, adultery, drunkenness, etc. But liberals will still find a way to ridicule the Bible. It doesn't even seem worth it.
Drunkenness and murder are at the same level here? God's gonna send me to hell for having too many mojitos?
 
Old 05-16-2012, 10:30 PM
 
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Jesus loved everyone and would in fact probably enjoyed plenty of gay sex in his day.
This statement is the reason Christians have a problem and have to speak up against Homosexuality. It tries to destroy the Savior and that is evil incarnate. It attacks the family and goes on to trashing the Redeemer Himself.
 
Old 05-16-2012, 10:42 PM
 
Location: Point Hope Alaska
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I could point out that homosexuality is listed among the worst sins like murder, adultery, drunkenness, etc.
Not quite so fast, That statement simply contradicts the bible. In the entire bible there is only ONE SIN: that is called great! Many sins are an abomination in God's eyes - all of them are. But only ONE is called Great BECAUSE IT DOES MORE DAMAGE than all the rest put together. Presumption is the sin of Great Transgression! Psalm 19
 
Old 05-16-2012, 10:56 PM
 
Location: Point Hope Alaska
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I have always asked people this simple question - How do you know?? What that pastor - priest - person is telling you as the truth IS THE TRUTH? How can we tell? How can we know? There is only one way to know. YOU MUST first LEARN that book - The entire bible cover to cover can be read in about 40 hours by the average person! The entire New Testament is the equivalent of a 275 page book - I can read that in about three or four days easily! I keep reading books until I have them all firmly planted in my heart THEN when someone opens their mouth - if they contradict the bible THEN ITS SIMPLE - they are NOT SPEAKING the truth!

BEGIN: in the New Contract - The New Agreement That is what's the most important! Let God's spirit teach you (John chapter 17).

He Promises to speak to you and call you by name (John 10)

A wise man hears - and will increase in learning Proverbs chapter 1:5

The Fear of the Lord is the BEGINNING OF WISDOM - And to depart from Evil is to get UNDERSTANDING! - Job 28:28


YOU SHALL seek ME & find ME - When YOU search for ME with ALL of your heart. Jerimiah 29:13 Those are God's terms and promises!
 
Old 05-16-2012, 11:12 PM
 
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According to the bible - Homosexuality defiles the LAND - & the NATION!
 
Old 05-16-2012, 11:38 PM
 
Location: San Francisco, CA
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According to the bible - Homosexuality defiles the LAND - & the NATION!
So if he hates it so much, why did God create homosexuality and cause some people to be "afflicted" by it? There are plenty of examples of homosexuality naturally occurring throughout the animal kingdom.
 
Old 05-16-2012, 11:59 PM
 
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Man was made higher than the animals so that he would have dominion over them - not act like them. (Genesis chapter 2).

God did not create homosexuality - Satan provides the desire in your MIND!

God says much about the mind and how it is influenced !

Lust is wrong!
 
Old 05-17-2012, 01:23 AM
 
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Not quite so fast, That statement simply contradicts the bible. In the entire bible there is only ONE SIN: that is called great! Many sins are an abomination in God's eyes - all of them are. But only ONE is called Great BECAUSE IT DOES MORE DAMAGE than all the rest put together. Presumption is the sin of Great Transgression! Psalm 19
Pretty presumptive of you to think the Bible is the only truth. Very presumptive of you to think everyone should base their lives, thoughts, and actions on the Bible. Extremely presumptive on your part to think the Bible should be the final arbiter of the law in a secular representative republic.
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