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Old 06-12-2012, 01:15 AM
 
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Christianity is a collective and no one left b/c of the WBC folk or the David Koresh types. These folk are from catholic, to JW to SDA to AOG and all the rest of the sects. Each one seeking truth within their own sect. The consensus is international and not just in the USA.

These are the folk that actually studied and know the bible. All of them sought the slenderest thread to hold onto but in the end there was nothing.

Why do you think atheists have the most biblical knowledge?

Well... wheres the proof ?
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Old 06-12-2012, 01:33 AM
 
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I suppose you can only do mental sommersaults for so long to justify institutional religion in your own psyche.

Well... Religion,

a set of beliefs concerning the cause, nature, and purpose of the universe, especially when considered as the creation of a superhuman agency or agencies, usually involving devotional and ritual observances, and often containing a moral code governing the conduct of human affairs.


Above is a description of the word religion. Tell me whats better, above or idea's such in your thread suggesting that you are God or something? (remember, Seeker has just shown dismay of koresh....)

So what"s the atheist position. I get home from work and all thats here is parable sinking, and stuff thats just a total confusion after all my posting this afternoon.
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Old 06-12-2012, 01:38 AM
 
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Well... wheres the proof ?
Thousands of extimonies.
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Seeker has just shown dismay of koresh....
BS that is not what I said. If you are going to participate, I expect you to quote me in context.

Correct this or get reported.

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Old 06-12-2012, 01:44 AM
 
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Well...even if its a parable for the kiddies, whatever floats the boat I guess.
Well, it seems to be convincing a few ex -ministers.

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Well... wheres the proof ?
Well..where's the proof of what? That ministers are deconverting? That they do. That they have and they will. Not a deluge, not yet, anyway, but the proof is self evident that they, who are supposedly the experts, can't believe what they are paid to teach.
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Old 06-12-2012, 01:55 AM
 
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Thousands of extimonies.

Bullsh*t that is not what I said. If you are going to participate, I expect you to quote me in context.

Correct this or get reported.


Good your here... Thousands of extimonies ? participate? I'm trying but confused here, last thread you intimated that you were previously of the RCC faith, but nothing in your entries show any complying theological conformance in knowledge-content...so that seems like trickery Seeker

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Old 06-12-2012, 01:58 AM
 
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Well, it seems to be convincing a few ex -ministers.



Well..where's the proof of what? That ministers are deconverting? That they do. That they have and they will. Not a deluge, not yet, anyway, but the proof is self evident that they, who are supposedly the experts, can't believe what they are paid to teach.
Good your here as well.... Proof that were on the same subject...In your own words can you explain what Christianity is exactly?
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Old 06-12-2012, 02:03 AM
 
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Good your here....last thread you intimated that you were previously of the RCC faith, but nothing in your entries show any complying theological conformance in knowledge-content...so that was trickery Seeker
Where did I claim I was RC? I only said I attended mass twice with GFs. You really need to stop misrepresenting people. I have never been a cathoclic but have discussed theology with many of them and looked at the RCC site to understand the theology of that sect.

Seems like you are just RCBot that has no compunction to lie.

Prove I claimed to be RC or retract publicly.
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Old 06-12-2012, 02:08 AM
 
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Where did I claim I was RC? I only said I attended mass twice with GFs. You really need to stop misrepresenting people. I have never been a cathoclic but have discussed theology with many of them and looked at the RCC site to understand the theology of that sect.

Seems like you are just RCBot that has no compunction to lie.

Prove I claimed to be RC or retract publicly.

Nope ....the flow of thread but no matter, there is no theology. No theological language no understood Christian Philosophy put forward for argument at all...so....in your words what exactly is Christianity so were on the same topic


i gotta go

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Old 06-12-2012, 02:23 AM
 
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Good your here as well.... Proof that were on the same subject...In your own words can you explain what Christianity is exactly?
You want ME to explain Christianity to YOU? Sunshine, you are struggling to finagle me onto some kind of logical rug sos' you can pull it from under my feet.

All we are saying is that it is significant that a number of Christian ministers do deconvert - Farrell Till is a noted debator and Austin Atheists' TV's Matt Dilllihunty (1), was a former minister, I do seem to recall, and I have read many many deconversion stories by others. And if they said they formerly preached Christianity then you take it up with them what Christianity is exactly. I'm not claiming (I repeat) that it is many of them, but I do claim that it is telling that they should know their Bible and it is knowing it that causes them to doubt it.

Finally, I will answer your question. Christianity is faith in the Bible's claim of Jesus' resurrection from the dead, with the expectation that believing it will save you from death, too. Admiration for Jesus as a moral teacher is also called Christianity but really isn't.

(1) watch him, he's excellent.

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Old 06-12-2012, 02:23 AM
 
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Seems the peter name is appropriate with the rooster crowing and all. Liars for jeebus Inc.
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