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How is it a dodge? The entire book of genesis is pure horse buns....Pick any verse that you think has any bearing on reality, and get back to me.
"In beginning, God . . . ."
Now that's reality.
Yay God! Go God! We thank you God for unveiling Yourself to us puny peons. I especially liked it when you formed the human from the soil of the earth and didn't brag about it. You just said what you did and left it at that. Me? I'd have been bragging. You? True humility.
I watched the movie. I really always liked Neil. I don't necessarily agree with him though that our solar system is the result of an exploding star. It is possible. But you'd have to prove that all the billions of solar systems in the billions of galaxies out there are the result of exploding stars. Maybe they are, but proof is quite another thing. I always believe that after the big bang, when the universe cooled the atoms coalesced into stars and planets and moons. Did all the stars that are visible now, multiplied billions x billions of them all the result of exploding stars? No.
In a sense this last part would be correct of you, but only because you specifically said 'visible'.
the visible light from the farthest stars allows you to view stars which only existed millions/billions of years ago, and are now most likely gone.
Unfortunately for the rest of your opinion though, you're more or less wrong. Any heavy body or space body like planets which have metals in them, are all the result of exploding stars. Heavier elements [heck, even just carbon] do not simply coalesce, but are the result of successive solar life-death cycles.
Thanks Heathen Hammer for your thoughts. I am curious if you believe that every star and every planet in our Milky Way Galaxy are the result of every billions of them coming from exploding stars?
What I find interesting is that the entire universe is balanced like on a razor's edge. If just one teeny parameter is changed it all would not come into existence. The balance of the sub-atomic particles has to be just perfect. The mass of all the electrons has to be just right. None of this could have happened as a fluke of nature. It had to be planned by a Higher Being of great wisdom.
It has been proven that carbon need not come from exploding stars but rather that carbon resonates at a very specific, well, umm, resonance. Stars, without exploding, create carbon due to carbon's resonant frequency.
What is interesting is that you and I are here to communicate because our universe works on laws and if any of those laws are broken the whole system would fail to exist. Kind of spooky if one is a non-Theist.
Except for God right? He is conveniently eternal. If religion can imagine a deity as being eternal why is it so hard to extend that thought towards matter and the universe?
Thanks Heathen Hammer for your thoughts. I am curious if you believe that every star and every planet in our Milky Way Galaxy are the result of every billions of them coming from exploding stars?
There's no reason to think otherwise.
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What I find interesting is that the entire universe is balanced like on a razor's edge. If just one teeny parameter is changed it all would not come into existence. The balance of the sub-atomic particles has to be just perfect. The mass of all the electrons has to be just right. None of this could have happened as a fluke of nature. It had to be planned by a Higher Being of great wisdom.
It does not balance on a razor's edge. And that uniformity is due merely to the continued conformity of all the elements and forces to their parameters. It does NOT in any way require a guiding hand. In addition the properties of the universe itself would deny the idea of a singular hand, in any case, but multiples.
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It has been proven that carbon need not come from exploding stars but rather that carbon resonates at a very specific, well, umm, resonance. Stars, without exploding, create carbon due to carbon's resonant frequency.
Im not sure what you're talking about in this case with resonance. However, successive star lifetimes were still necessary as at the beginning of solar formation, only hydrogen thru lithium would have been produced. You'd need more than one 'pass' for carbon to start forming, in other words. And yes, carbon can form inside 'live' stars, but we were talking of metals at the time - or at least that's what I said.
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What is interesting is that you and I are here to communicate because our universe works on laws and if any of those laws are broken the whole system would fail to exist. Kind of spooky if one is a non-Theist.
I'm a polytheist. It's not spooky at all.
the good thing is that those laws are never broken.
Heathen Hammer, for carbon resonance you might want to research Fred Hoyle and Leonard Susskind, a Stanford University theoretical physicist. They agree with me.
I'm not sure [after a quick lookup as you suggest] that your resonance reference has to do with carbon inside stars; stars don't emit carbon strings, there's too much energy present; they emit atoms and the molecules themselves bond later away from the parent environment, iirc.
Yay God! Go God! We thank you God for unveiling Yourself to us puny peons. I especially liked it when you formed the human from the soil of the earth and didn't brag about it. You just said what you did and left it at that. Me? I'd have been bragging. You? True humility.
Except for God right? He is conveniently eternal. If religion can imagine a deity as being eternal why is it so hard to extend that thought towards matter and the universe?
Now you are talking about spitit and matter. Spirit has no matter, no molecules, no atoms, Spirit is consciousno matter involved. Spirit has no beginning or end, matter does.
Now you are talking about spitit and matter. Spirit has no matter, no molecules, no atoms, Spirit is consciousno matter involved. Spirit has no beginning or end, matter does.
The only thing "created" in this conversation is the man made concept of "spirit."
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