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Old 08-13-2012, 12:42 AM
 
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A Flight Through the Universe, by the Sloan Digital Sky Survey - YouTube#!

Amazing to think that each of those are a galaxy....and billions and billions of stars in each of them...Will God save the souls of all the sentient creatures throughout the Universive? Did God send a deity down to all the sentient creatures of the universe to save their souls, or is man the only creature worth saving in the huge vast universe?
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Old 08-13-2012, 12:54 AM
 
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Only if they have the potential to spread the meme and give it energy and money. An evil infection, just like Hellenism. Obviously the religionists will try to convert sentient aliens, but since religion is a disease with a niche, the aliens will likely have their own beliefs to spread (fear of death and not-knowing should be a universal meme of sentient creatures, that is often a good enough niche).

If people actually only believed in their eternal souls they would commit suicide. So they invent a "soul justice system" were committing suicide would be a pretty undesirable thing.

In a "genesis is literal, god's idol scriptures are infallible" view, however, aliens would not fall under human religion.
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Old 08-13-2012, 01:02 AM
 
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"I have sheep that are not of this fold." Jesus Christ
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Old 08-13-2012, 01:51 AM
 
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It appears that there are three distinct "roads" to salvation:

1. Judaism: salvation is achieved through the nation, that God will one day intervene and create a new Jerusalem, in which all of mankind will find a place and purpose within it.

2. Hinduism/Buddhism/and similar: through one's works, lifestyle, and knowledge that one day will remove the individual from the cycle of life.

3. Christianity/Islam: belief in a God who judges according to faith and rewards accordingly. For Christians, the faith is centered in a man who has been made God, while in Islam faith remains securely in Allah. But both are similar in the either-or proposition of heaven-or-hell destinations based upon a person's faith and actions.

When we take each of these philosophies apart, we can begin to pinpoint tipping points that eventually defined them. A religion that starts out in a desert whereby society is dependent upon human interaction for survival versus a religion that starts out in a plush, fertile environment: one will find a huge divergence of thought.

If one discounts the visitation of extraterrestrial visitors in our aged past, mankind has had no relevance to the idea that it is not alone in the universe. The universe, according to the "approved" version that is only lately being challenged, consisted of an Earth surrounded by a shell that separated the real "heaven" from the Earth, the stage that Shakespeare aptly described for the entertainment of this heaven and the beings inhabiting it. So, we are alone and have developed our theology accordingly, placing ourselves at the center of the universe. Are we wrong?

Even given the fact that we inhabit a rather exclusive solar system far, far removed from just about everything else, for all practical purposes, we are the center of the universe. We feel most comfortable about that proposition, and we have fashioned our notions about our God(s) accordingly.

But should we have been placed in a neighborhood of civilizations inhabiting other worlds, our theology would have turned out much differently. It is conceivable that wars over religious notions would have been real-life "War of the Worlds" on a grand scale, each civilization claiming that its religious theory/philosophy to be the correct one. This assumes that each world would finally settle down with only one religion to live by. Given Earth's track record, I cannot believe that any world comprised of sentient creatures would come to terms with one kind of religion.

Sentient extraterrestrials would probably come in two varieties: missionaries or religiously tollerant. Or maybe, they would just be amused by us, being animals and all and having no real "true" souls. LOL!
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Old 08-13-2012, 09:22 AM
 
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He was talking to the Jews. Not to Humanity.
And he shall send his angels with a great sound of a trumpet, and they shall gather together his elect from the four winds, from one end of heaven to the other.
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Old 08-13-2012, 10:37 AM
 
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Wonder what a insect or underwater planet species of JESUS looks like....

The coat turns white...I have witnessed many white creatures that normally are not white in their so called natural states.
I have even seen a white cockroach, with black eyes...Something in scripture about their coats becoming white....sinless?...perhaps?....but it is not just Humans who are in the forgiveness process....As Jesus also says to preach the good news to all the living things....hence they are all part of the Kingdom of God (if they comply)( and can be forgiven (once they see they have been deceived by the liar)..who leads them to destruction....the planets dooms....with a IDOL told not to make.(which they did)..more important than He God for life (which they are now doing).....But they did not listen to reason...(they slaughtered the truth Jesus and God)...and so...no other creature uses MONEY....wonder why?...intelligence eh?...Polluting the planet with all the techno and industrial madness...surely speaks volumes to them others as to what Humans think is important,($$$) rather than the living Jesus said to tend to...wonder what they speak to God on our behalf about?

Yah intelligence is not something one would say Humans are naturally natured with...even after being told or taught the way to that white coat.....They do the most outlandish of things in the opposing direction and actions...for no good reason other than to see it burn or go to destruction..while holding onto that IDOL and the industrial madness that is its side arm, polluting the eco systems..so it all gets defiled in some aspect.......while they break all God's rules and such, so they can have $atan rule over them with death continually.......and what suffers?...Yah Intelligence...But they bite at religion and repute the truth...so they can dance in some form of delusional mindset saying we are free and can be what ever we want to be....while the planet goes to poo poo...and if one dances in that...they do not turn white...more like brown or some shade there of....wink wink...
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Old 08-13-2012, 12:55 PM
 
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A Flight Through the Universe, by the Sloan Digital Sky Survey - YouTube#!

Amazing to think that each of those are a galaxy....and billions and billions of stars in each of them...Will God save the souls of all the sentient creatures throughout the Universive? Did God send a deity down to all the sentient creatures of the universe to save their souls, or is man the only creature worth saving in the huge vast universe?
We still don't know if there is anyone else.
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Old 08-13-2012, 05:59 PM
 
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We still don't know if there is anyone else.
Who is we? The general public or the people that really know....
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Old 08-13-2012, 06:56 PM
 
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Who is we? The general public or the people that really know....
Oh come now, if there was clear evidence of alien life, the general public would definitely have been told by know.
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Old 08-13-2012, 08:27 PM
 
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And he shall send his angels with a great sound of a trumpet, and they shall gather together his elect from the four winds, from one end of heaven to the other.
the four winds? really, that means only earth. "from one end of heaven" is talking about the angels not ALIENS. the angels will go and cover all the sky on earth, from one end to the other because the writers were to ignorant and stupid to find that the Earth was a sphere.

Mark 13:27
Matthew 24:31

Meaningless idols can be given any meaning.

Here the Greek word for "Heaven" is the same word as "Sky" because that is were the True Lord Zeus lived: "Up in Heaven". Pie in the Sky.

The Four Winds... lol are those 4 alien races?
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