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Old 08-28-2012, 09:10 AM
 
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While Republicans are not in touch with the gospels I might add that the Democrates are not really that far behind them.

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Would the OP like to explain this whole statement because it is very vague and what is it based on definitely not fact but opinion.
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Old 08-28-2012, 09:21 AM
 
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The more you give the more you get in return that would be Jesus party slogan, He would be neither DEM. NOR REP. because he is a loving God who gives from the heart., not because of a tax-write-off or being selfish.
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Old 08-28-2012, 09:32 AM
 
Location: The New England part of Ohio
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It is obvious to anyone who has read the bible where Jesus would have stood on capitol punishment.

"Let he who is without sin cast the first stone"

So he would not have been a Republican. I should add that not all Dems meet that standard.

Paying taxes? "render unto Ceasar what is Ceasar's"
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Old 08-28-2012, 11:49 AM
 
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No sensible person would disagree with that. However, I think churches & individual Christians have in large part abdigated their responsibility, giving it over to the state.
I believe one of the reasons they have done so, is that the philosophy teaches that you get what you deserve. God occasionally doles out worldly consequence for your sinful nature; to them, obviously, the right thing is being done by God. So, helping them is wrong, because it goes against God's punishment.

Basically you deserve to be poor. You are poor because you've done something wrong.
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Old 08-28-2012, 01:02 PM
 
Location: Free State of Texas
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I believe one of the reasons they have done so, is that the philosophy teaches that you get what you deserve. God occasionally doles out worldly consequence for your sinful nature; to them, obviously, the right thing is being done by God. So, helping them is wrong, because it goes against God's punishment.

Basically you deserve to be poor. You are poor because you've done something wrong.
Study: Red states give more to charity than blue states
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Old 08-28-2012, 05:58 PM
 
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Irrelevant: there are democrats and independants in those states. The study does not define who is actually giving.

We are talking about the parties. Republicans are more likely to blame poor people for their lot and use the term 'handouts' when speaking of programs like welfare.

How much have you ever donated, personally? In addition, was it to poor people? Or to a religious charity? The 'highest states' on that list are giving to their own churches. That's not exactly helping the poor.
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Old 08-28-2012, 06:05 PM
 
Location: Free State of Texas
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Irrelevant: there are democrats and independants in those states. The study does not define who is actually giving.

We are talking about the parties. Republicans are more likely to blame poor people for their lot and use the term 'handouts' when speaking of programs like welfare.

How much have you ever donated, personally? In addition, was it to poor people? Or to a religious charity? The 'highest states' on that list are giving to their own churches. That's not exactly helping the poor.
Giving to a church simply means not all of your donation is going to help the poor. Charity is not the only ministry of the church. Nevertheless, one of the studies I read said even after taking church giving out of the equation, red and blue states are virtually the same. Kinda blows your premise.
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Old 08-28-2012, 07:23 PM
 
Location: Hyrule
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Actually, in a different light, I think Jesus is who you want him to be. If you talk to Republicans then you will have the version of a Republican Jesus who represents their core ideals. If you talk to Democrats then you get a Jesus who represents their core ideas of who Jesus is and what he stands for.

Jesus is who you want him to be, and he is what you make him. That is how I see it, this is the only way both sides of the political spectrum can possibly worship him at one time, as well as Independents. He is all things to all people because he is what ever they decide to make him up to be. He isn't real. He is anyones idea of who their son of their God (who is also invented) would be like, to them. That is why these "what would Jesus do or be now" are pointless. He would do or be whatever anyone wanted him to do or be right now as well as anytime in the past or future. IMO of course.
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Old 08-28-2012, 07:28 PM
 
Location: Hyrule
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The more you give the more you get in return that would be Jesus party slogan, He would be neither DEM. NOR REP. because he is a loving God who gives from the heart., not because of a tax-write-off or being selfish.
See....I'll go with this version.....sounds nice.
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