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My question is about what the title describes. It seems to me that most people I know, seem to believe the old testament doesn't mean anything except a biblical story. Yet, the new testament is constantly refering back to the old testament. I think the entire bible is revelant myself, with the exception of some of the old laws that were done away with. What does everyone else think?
Okay, you just answered your question... You yourself just said parts of it is irrelevent. Everyone else just has a different opinion on what has been done away with...
Okay, you just answered your question... You yourself just said parts of it is irrelevent. Everyone else just has a different opinion on what has been done away with...
And I think those opinions are what he is asking for..
There's a lot of debate among Christian theologians as to what we are to do with Mosaic laws under the New Covenant. Are we (non-Jews) to follow all the strict dietary and behavioral codes as the Orthodox Jews of today? Are we to obey the laws of the Torah?
There's a lot of debate among Christian theologians as to what we are to do with Mosaic laws under the New Covenant. Are we (non-Jews) to follow all the strict dietary and behavioral codes as the Orthodox Jews of today? Are we to obey the laws of the Torah?
Depends what you mean by the laws of Torah...if you mean 10 commandments then of course. But traditions-wise:
The laws of Torah were given only to Jews. Gentiles were never asked to follow them. Actually you will be surprised: some Messianic Jews (Jews who accepted Christ as their saviour) still follow Sabbath on Saturday as their holy day, keep Passover and Yom Kippur and other various traditions. The reason I know is because I am one.
some Messianic Jews (Jews who accepted Christ as their saviour) still follow Sabbath on Saturday as their holy day, keep Passover and Yom Kippur and other various traditions. The reason I know is because I am one.
Aren't the first Christians then not also Messianic Jews?
Originally Posted by max's mama Aren't the first Christians then not also Messianic Jews?
I'd say 'yes' and this came up before in another thread. You are correct Tricky D, the disciples, first followers, Paul, and even Jesus Himself were all Jewish.
Come to think of it, I guess Jesus was the first Messianic Jew.
There's a lot of debate among Christian theologians as to what we are to do with Mosaic laws under the New Covenant. Are we (non-Jews) to follow all the strict dietary and behavioral codes as the Orthodox Jews of today? Are we to obey the laws of the Torah?
As a former Christian, I believe that many Christians choose to find the OT irrelevant because of arrogance that their religion is the be all end all religion.
This is sad, really, if for no other reason than historical perspective. It is also interesting that for those who believe in the Bible as the word of God, that parts of it are completely overlooked to suit one's worldview. I would think, and I could be wrong, that belief in the Bible would include everything, Old and New Testament for Christians, and OT for Jews.
I would think, and I could be wrong, that belief in the Bible would include everything, Old and New Testament for Christians, and OT for Jews.
No, you are right.
The New Testament teaches about the Old Testament and it's application to a Christian's life.
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Aren't the first Christians then not also Messianic Jews?
