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Old 12-24-2012, 02:27 AM
 
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The Doctor, of course.
Great answer!
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Old 12-24-2012, 06:34 AM
 
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Now now now don't you know that he built it in a valley with freeze dried food?
He didn't build it with freeze dried food. He stocked it with freeze dried food for those animals needing fresh foods.

And yes, I believe he built it in a valley surrounding the ship. Smart guy!
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Old 12-24-2012, 07:16 AM
 
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Of course.

Yup

And they came from the story of the Flood. The writings of them may predate our earliest writings of the Flood...but they are all based on the legends of the flood.

No. It's a horrible event that happened to a world full of sinful people.
Yeah, those evil sinful babies, quite deserving of being drown to death. Do you realize how callous, naive, and silly you sound?
Did Noah take two of ALL species into the Ark?
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Old 12-24-2012, 09:12 AM
 
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And they came from the story of the Flood. The writings of them may predate our earliest writings of the Flood...but they are all based on the legends of the flood.
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And you absolutely believe that all details are correct and accurate, with respect to information that is based on legends? In other words, you also believe in leprechauns and unicorns? And all of the legends of American Indians and African tribes, which also must have been literal truth (since they meet the test of being based on legends), even though they were not yet known to the men who gathered up legends and transcribed them into the Holy Bible?

By the way, what do you think the pairs of lions and tigers ate, during all those 40 days on the ark, and the later days after they left the ark and went back to the azoic land? Bags of Purina cat food? And why did Noah need to "save" about 30 species of pelagic birds (Albatrosses, shearwaters, petrels), which spend their entire lives on the water and never need to light on dry land except to lay eggs. Why couldn't they survive the flood without Noah? And after the flood,where did all the regenerating forests get the carbon dioxide they needed, with only an ark-ful of animals in the world exhaling all in one place? With no vegetation giving off oxygen for the ark livestock to breathe during the flood. Should we talk about fresh-water species of fish, suddenly under the ocean, with no Neptunian Noah to save them, but surviving by a miracle the Bible forgot to mention? Remember, there is NO evolution, so every species was exactly the same then that it is now, with exactly the same environmental and nutritional requirements.

When you tell us these stories, do you think we are all children sitting wide-eyed in Sunday school, with no knowledge of the dynamics of ecology?

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apparently not in the sky like that. [light did not refract through water]
Hmm. "Apparently", your legend is more enduring than the known physical laws of the universe, which can "apparently" shift around willy-nilly in order to fit your legend. Come on, you're just jerking us around, right?

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Old 12-24-2012, 10:05 AM
 
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And you absolutely believe that all details are correct and accurate, with respect to information that is based on legends? In other words, you also believe in leprechauns and unicorns?
I've never said that, did I?
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And all of the legends of American Indians and African tribes, which also must have been literal truth (since they meet the test of being based on legends), even though they were not yet known to the men who gathered up legends and transcribed them into the Holy Bible?
I think like anything, they got a lot of the details fuzzy but they knew that there was an event that happened.
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By the way, what do you think the pairs of lions and tigers ate, during all those 40 days on the ark, and the later days after they left the ark and went back to the azoic land?
Noah brought them food to eat. Afterward, I have no problem believing they scavenged. They don't have to eat every day.
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Bags of Purina cat food? And why did Noah need to "save" about 30 species of pelagic birds (Albatrosses, shearwaters, petrels), which spend their entire lives on the water and never need to light on dry land except to lay eggs. Why couldn't they survive the flood without Noah?

Do we know that there were that many variants of birds at the time?
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And after the flood,where did all the regenerating forests get the carbon dioxide they needed, with only an ark-ful of animals in the world exhaling all in one place? Should we talk about fresh-water species of fish, suddenly under the ocean, with no Neptunian Noah to save them, but surviving by a miracle the Bible forgot to mention? Remember, there is NO evolution, so every species was exactly the same then that it is now, with exactly the same environmental and nutritional requirements.
I honestly don't know, nor do I care to answer those item by item. Go play on Answers in Genesis' site if you are interested.
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When you tell us these stories, do you think we are all children sitting wide-eyed in Sunday school, with no knowledge of the dynamics of ecology?

No. I think you are a sinful human being just like me.
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Hmm. "Apparently", your legend is more enduring than the known physical laws of the universe, which can "apparently" shift around willy-nilly in order to fit your legend. Come on, you're just jerking us around, right?
What assumptions are you making about the environment at the time of the flood? Could the environment have changed?
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Old 12-24-2012, 10:09 AM
 
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Yeah, those evil sinful babies, quite deserving of being drown to death. Do you realize how callous, naive, and silly you sound?
As has been discussed on this board numerous times, it's ironic for someone that doesn't believe in an absolute standard of morality to question how anyone deserved death.
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Did Noah take two of ALL species into the Ark?
No. He took 7 pairs of clean animals, and 1 pair of unclean. (Gen 7:2)

It never says "species". More than likely it was "types". From there, the different species evolved from the types of animals on the ark.
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Old 12-24-2012, 10:37 AM
 
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As has been discussed on this board numerous times, it's ironic for someone that doesn't believe in an absolute standard of morality to question how anyone deserved death.
So babies weren't moral enough to be spared?
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Old 12-24-2012, 11:30 AM
 
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It never says "species". More than likely it was "types". From there, the different species evolved from the types of animals on the ark.
That's interesting. So many or most of the species on earth now evolved from some other form? But humans absolutely could not have. Have I got that right?

"Species" is just a more scientifically exacting word than "types" but it means the same thing and suits the descriptive needs of more advanced scientific study. Are you going to tell us that there were no molecules or elements in Noahs time, because the Bible never says "molecules" or "elements". nor distinguishes between the two?

Oh, wait, you're right. There were no elements or molecules then, just like light did not refract through water then. All these complex life forms were just made from earth, water, air and fire. The world was such a simple place, and only got complex later on.

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Old 12-24-2012, 01:42 PM
 
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That's interesting. So many or most of the species on earth now evolved from some other form? But humans absolutely could not have. Have I got that right?

"Species" is just a more scientifically exacting word than "types" but it means the same thing and suits the descriptive needs of more advanced scientific study. Are you going to tell us that there were no molecules or elements in Noahs time, because the Bible never says "molecules" or "elements". nor distinguishes between the two?

Oh, wait, you're right. There were no elements or molecules then, just like light did not refract through water then. All these complex life forms were just made from earth, water, air and fire. The world was such a simple place, and only got complex later on.
And all of this evolution and creation of new species happened in the mere 8000 years since the flood. Simply amazing!!!
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Old 12-24-2012, 01:45 PM
 
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As has been discussed on this board numerous times, it's ironic for someone that doesn't believe in an absolute standard of morality to question how anyone deserved death.
So, your answer to my question is "yes, they deserved it because its God's morality". OK. We understand.
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