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Old 12-26-2012, 04:18 PM
 
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Here is where you show you as all anybody can be circumscribed by personal bias. "Thankfully"? To me it seems to be an indicator that you want it to be that way. Others have provided evidence they claim such an even could have happened. I will not say thankfully as happy it did not happen. I am only saying that from what have read both sides of the issue do seem to have information that can have valid claims.
You're reading way too much into what I stated. I was saying "thankfully" to express my gratitude to those who posted the evidence of what I was claim, so I needn't provide it.
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Old 12-26-2012, 05:45 PM
 
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According to McLean v. Arkansas, the definition of Evolution, as taught in the schools in the United States, includes "Emergence of man from a common ancestor with apes". It is my understanding that Christian doctrine rejects at least that part of evolution, and it is difficult to reconcile evolution in general with the falsity of that point.

If you will state that you believe man emerged from a common ancestor with apes, I will withdraw anything I said about your endorsement of the Christian position on evolution.
First I ever heard that God was an ape.
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Old 12-26-2012, 08:20 PM
 
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First I ever heard that God was an ape.
I thought that you believed that god made man in his likeness? If that is so then since all humans are apes, then god would have to be the alpha ape.
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Old 12-26-2012, 10:33 PM
 
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And you'd have to blithely conclude that even post-fludd, the water's biochemistry, so chock-full of dead and dying plant and animal materials, would all instantly self-correct. All the fresh water inland lakes, all the streams, major rivers, etc. etc., you think would all just Insta-Poof change back to their original biochemisty, of which salinity is but one tiny component.

But OK: do this: I double-down dare you! Mix a cup of salt into a quart of drinking water, let rest in your fridge, and then drink only that mix for 40 says. Then another, and another, period for the biblically claimed 180 days (6 mo).

Then do tell us how they dealt with your dehydrated corpse. (We do not see healthy whales or dolphins or marine sharks happily swimming about up in some fresh-water river. At least not for longer than a day or so, during which they often make a salinity run back down to the ocean to "Get biochemically right again!" Fact.



It's provided to us in great detail, we're told, and it's utterly compelling and "believable"! Yup!





Oh. Grew up on a farm, huh? So you fully understand evolution, speciation, and so on? You also make some typical claim that we evolutionists require massive changes, which is EXACTLY WHAT WE DO NOT SAY.

Rather, it's you techno-illiterate nuts who have always evasively and lyingly demanded some transitory species, the so-called Missing Link, which we know does not occur. It's ALWAYS a gradual process, sometimes a bit faster (the Cambrian Explosion was actually millions of years old' it is meant in a relative sense, obviously!


It is obviously you, Vizio, who needs the primer on, well, all of it, since you continue to demo your huge lack of knowledge on the subject, 'ceptin' for watching some sheep breed. and then claiming to sus it all out here! The arrogant silliness of it all

BTw, a sheep is a different species than a wolf, which is different than a bison, which is different from a whale, a salmon, an ape and a man. Trust me.

So do you have a complete fossil record showing every form of gradual change from our ape ancestor to modern man? Show me exactly how our voice box and mechanism for speech came about. Where's the proof? If not, then I do declare macroevolution is quite the unproven theory.
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Old 12-27-2012, 06:34 AM
 
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So do you have a complete fossil record showing every form of gradual change from our ape ancestor to modern man? Show me exactly how our voice box and mechanism for speech came about. Where's the proof? If not, then I do declare macroevolution is quite the unproven theory.
Again, Christians demand such a complete record. Not Evolution's job to provide toe-tagged examples. all lined up.

It's called forensics, and no ,we don't have to be there to confirm who committed the murder!


It's also been so well observed and demo'd and documented in such genetic micro-changes, TWD
, but then, based on what you have made claims about, as per science and how it works, I do not expect you to see nor comprehend this one. You're still looking for a cat giving birth to a dog overnight.

Absurd, and not how it works. Except in the denialist mind. "No missing link, no evolution!"

Blah blah blah. Back to Science 000.001.
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Old 12-27-2012, 08:18 AM
 
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So rifleman, where are your undeniable proofs which you claimed earlier in this thread to which I asked for proof you need to back up your untenable position?
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Old 12-27-2012, 08:24 AM
 
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First I ever heard that God was an ape.
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I thought that you believed that god made man in his likeness? If that is so then since all humans are apes, then god would have to be the alpha ape.
Actually, God would have to be a single celled organism if all life came from that. If you really really believe that all the billions of different animals came from a single celled organism, that all their varried DNA was inherring in that single cell, all the bio-diversity inherred in that single cell amoeba, then all logic has simply been flushed down the evolutionary toilet where it rightly belongs.

Getting back to Noah's engineering skills . . . Noah did not have to be a genius to build such a craft. He just needed the same superior guidance from the One Who created the universe.
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Old 12-27-2012, 09:42 AM
 
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I love how Certain people here are claiming that a handful of animals on an ark evolved at a lightening pace into many, many current animals alive today in the span of a thousand years, of course they can not show all the toe tagged examples of transitional forms lined up.
But when the claim is made that animals evolved over millions of years, the transitional forms must be demonstrated or the whole theory is junk.
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Old 12-27-2012, 09:43 AM
 
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I love how Certain people here are claiming that a handful of animals on an ark evolved at a lightening pace into many, many current animals alive today in the span of a thousand years, of course they can not show all the toe tagged examples of transitional forms lined up.
But when the claim is made that animals evolved over millions of years, the transitional forms must be demonstrated or the whole theory is junk.
How does that compare to the Cambrian explosion? For some unknown reason, evolutionists think there were all kinds of new species in a relative blink of an eye.
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Old 12-27-2012, 10:06 AM
 
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How does that compare to the Cambrian explosion? For some unknown reason, evolutionists think there were all kinds of new species in a relative blink of an eye.
The Cambrian Explosion took about 75 million years. How is that the blink of an eye?
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