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Vizio, do you have a problem with the Cambrian explosion? I only ask becasuse if you do, I can't see you accepting such massive evolutiong after the ark.
Actually, God would have to be a single celled organism if all life came from that. If you really really believe that all the billions of different animals came from a single celled organism, that all their varried DNA was inherring in that single cell,
Well fortunately, none of us believes that screwy idea. Amino acids, RNA, then simple DNA and accumulation of mutations (well documentable in any high school lab, but you'd still deny it even if they rammed it down your well-throttled mind-hole). Again, we see here a pathological illiteracy about anything to do with biology or Evolution.
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How does that compare to the Cambrian explosion? For some unknown reason, evolutionists think there were all kinds of new species in a relative blink of an eye.
"Relative" is the word here, and a whole lot of DNA pre-existed that Cambrian diversification. The biological world did NOT start from square one at that point, but had, in fact, been active for multi-millions of years prior. Too bad you are SUCH an evasive denialist!
When things happen exponentially, Eusebius, a concept in math you seem to have also missed the important lectures on, a whole lotta stuff can and did happen in a RELATIVELY short time.
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Yeah. I'm a YEC. But those that discount YEC's due to the explosion of new species by natural selection should have a problem with the Cambrian exposion.
Nope. It's you who has the problem "sussing out" issues with common sense and reams of mountains of documented and organized data, now fully supported by DNA lineage tracking, yet another area of "Sorry: I have no expertise here" that you hold so very dear, and pretty much as your only defense, continuing to posit true fundy-babble as your only evidence against the facts of Evolution.
That's OK though: enjoy yourself! On me! I mean, we can't all be educated and informed, after all. Some have to go down into the dark caves of stubborn ignorance each day and mutter to themselves.
Yeah. I'm a YEC. But those that discount YEC's due to the explosion of new species by natural selection should have a problem with the Cambrian exposion.
So you find a few thousand years to be comparable to 75 million years?
And you don't see the difference between all life on earth appearing according to genesis and
life slowly evolving from preexisting forms over hundreds of millions years?
Good point. There are some, including Christians, that do not believe it was a universal event. This means that if such event happened it may have been a local event that covered the writer's account in his world. As far as impossible, why? The account of a flood can be found in civilizations around the world in differing ways. However, what makes it impossible? Take care.
Noah was convinced that he heard the word of God, and defined the world according to flawed information. I agree with you that the word of God, even if actually emanating from God, was wrongly interpreted. Same as everything else in the Bible. Which makes it all basically BS. All of Genesis can only be treated as bologna, misinterpretations not just the word of God, but many more words thought to be of God. It is all subject to error, sometimes so erroneous as to be completely useless in constructing the so-called Word Of God. We are left with no operative clue about what God was trying to communicate to us, if anything. It's all been converted to mishmash by Noah, et.al., who were, as you admit, imperfect scribes and interpreters.
Noah was convinced that he heard the word of God, and defined the world according to flawed information. I agree with you that the word of God, even if actually emanating from God, was wrongly interpreted. Same as everything else in the Bible. Which makes it all basically BS. All of Genesis can only be treated as bologna, misinterpretations not just the word of God, but many more words thought to be of God. It is all subject to error, sometimes so erroneous as to be completely useless in constructing the so-called Word Of God. We are left with no operative clue about what God was trying to communicate to us, if anything. It's all been converted to mishmash by Noah, et.al., who were, as you admit, imperfect scribes and interpreters.
Noah got it right. If the flood waters only went over the highest mountains to the east of the Mesopotamian area of roughly 200 miles wide by about 500 miles long, it still would have had to be a global flood unless you want to believe in something even more incredulous as God making an invisible wall starting from the North of the valley extending down the length of the western edge of the valley and then heading East to the mountains and extending upwards for around 12,000 feet in height.
And therefore students? Think now... It is an easy one after all! What logical conclusion can we all correctly come to regarding the even remote possibility of such a pandemic event, completed in just over a month or so, with the necessary volumes of water, and all the truly catastrophic ecological consequences?
So...yes, Johhny, what have you concluded?
(No, Eusebius, you always fool around with the truth too much: we won't take your answer just right now! )
OK Johhny... YES! You're right! Didn't and could NOT HAVE happened as described. You get an "A", but we do have some of those special hats for those who will not listen, think critically, cogitate a bit and, despite the spiritual implications to their lives, go with biblical literacy ABOVE ALL ELSE, so indeed figure it or them out!
And therefore students? Think now... It is an easy one after all! What logical conclusion can we all correctly come to regarding the even remote possibility of such a pandemic event, completed in just over a month or so, with the necessary volumes of water, and all the truly catastrophic ecological consequences?
So...yes, Johhny, what have you concluded?
(No, Eusebius, you always fool around with the truth too much: we won't take your answer just right now! )
OK Johhny... YES! You're right! Didn't and could NOT HAVE happened as described. You get an "A", but we do have some of those special hats for those who will not listen, think critically, cogitate a bit and, despite the spiritual implications to their lives, go with biblical literacy ABOVE ALL ELSE, so indeed figure it or them out!
Resorting to constant ridicule of the truth of G-d's written word is a fools game. So difficult to digest your own rhetoric about an assumed and unobservable past, you resort to the devils tactics..."yeah, hath G-d said?"
Noah got it right. If the flood waters only went over the highest mountains to the east of the Mesopotamian area of roughly 200 miles wide by about 500 miles long, it still would have had to be a global flood unless you want to believe in something even more incredulous as God making an invisible wall starting from the North of the valley extending down the length of the western edge of the valley and then heading East to the mountains and extending upwards for around 12,000 feet in height.
We went through this in another thread a year or so ago. Go get your calculator. Figure out how many gallons of water would be needed to cover the earth to a depth of 12,000 feet. Now, please explain in simple, understandable terms, where all that water [ literally trillions and trillions of gallons] came from to create such a flood, and where it all went afterwards. Only then can the story of the flood be taken literally. When we discussed this before, we were talking about the height of Mt. Everest of K2, but you said 12,000 feet, so let's go with that. What kind of figures did you come up with?
We went through this in another thread a year or so ago. Go get your calculator. Figure out how many gallons of water would be needed to cover the earth to a depth of 12,000 feet. Now, please explain in simple, understandable terms, where all that water [ literally trillions and trillions of gallons] came from to create such a flood, and where it all went afterwards. Only then can the story of the flood be taken literally. When we discussed this before, we were talking about the height of Mt. Everest of K2, but you said 12,000 feet, so let's go with that. What kind of figures did you come up with?
Assuming current geologic conditions such as 12000 foot mountains (and higher) were present prior to what you your paradigm also proclaims is assumed (the global flood) then I agree it would be rediculous to assume that a global flood covering all these high mountains which currently exist is even remotely possible. However, given the enormous amount of worldwide sedimentary strata and fossil deposits it's apparent that your paradigm is based upon a false premise..."the present is the key to the past."
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He does it all again! Happy illiteracy demo time!
It is an easy one after all! What logical conclusion can we all correctly come to regarding the even remote possibility of such a pandemic event, completed in just over a month or so, with the necessary volumes of water, and all the truly catastrophic ecological consequences? 
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