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IQ test results vary widely in different parts of the world, mostly splitting along religious lines.
105 -- Countries with non-theistic religions (east Asia)
95 -- Theistic but with secular government (Europe, America)
85 -- Theocracies (Latin America and Islamic countries)
Below 80 -- Multitheistic and chaotic mixes of gods (India, Africa)
One could argue that, if there is any relevance to the correlation, it is because people of low intelligence are likely to have high faith in God. Or conversely, that a high faith in God retards the development of intellect.
I suspect it is the latter. The Flynn Effect describes the observation that the global average IQ goes up about 3 poin ts per decade. This was first noted in the 1950, so had already been occurring by that time, so if that has been the case for 70 years, IQ's have gone up by 20 points since IQ testing started. Which could be a rise of 40 points in advanced countries and no chance in intellectually stagnant countries. So the country-by-country rankings may simply show that some countries have gradually increased their IQs, and other countries have remained mired at their 1930s level. And it is the countries that have relied on their faith in God, where intellects have failed to advance.
Are those IQ numbers based on culturally relevant locally normed tests?
ETA:no, they're not. Do you have any idea how culturally biased those tests are? Very. If you don't play baseball you can't answer a question involving innings as a unit of runs.
Are those IQ numbers based on culturally relevant locally normed tests?
ETA:no, they're not. Do you have any idea how culturally biased those tests are? Very. If you don't play baseball you can't answer a question involving innings as a unit of runs.
So, it is cultural bias that makes Koreans and Japanese so much better at scoring on the American tests. Why would Americans make a test that is culturally biased toward Asians?
Or, are you simply concurring that religious cultures are ill-equipped to display what the world calls "intelligence"?
Countries with high levels of religious faith do not do well on tests in which the testees are expected to recognize new concepts quickly and apply them to problem solving.
Are those IQ numbers based on culturally relevant locally normed tests?
ETA:no, they're not. Do you have any idea how culturally biased those tests are? Very. If you don't play baseball you can't answer a question involving innings as a unit of runs.
That was my thought, too. I take a somewhat dim view of IQ tests; it's like grading various computers based on the raw processing power of their CPUs without taking into account operating systems, input devices, usability, fitness to purpose, maintainability, etc. etc.
Intelligence is very compartmentalized and in any case, it says little to nothing about emotional capacity, empathy, social skills or lack thereof, common sense, wisdom, etc etc.
So, it is cultural bias that makes Koreans and Japanese so much better at scoring on the American tests. Why would Americans make a test that is culturally biased toward Asians?
Or, are you simply concurring that religious cultures are ill-equipped to display what the world calls "intelligence"?
Countries with high levels of religious faith do not do well on tests in which the testees are expected to recognize new concepts quickly and apply them to problem solving.
Religious people in a non-overwhelmingly religious culture are less intelligent. But simply being born under a theocracy doesn't make you dumb. Nor does having no choice in being religious.
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... do not do well on tests in which the testees are expected to recognize new concepts quickly and apply them to problem solving.
is not what IQ tests measure.
Do you really want to get into a discussion of the merits of measuring G?
IQ test results vary widely in different parts of the world, mostly splitting along religious lines.
105 -- Countries with non-theistic religions (east Asia)
95 -- Theistic but with secular government (Europe, America)
85 -- Theocracies (Latin America and Islamic countries)
Below 80 -- Multitheistic and chaotic mixes of gods (India, Africa)
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By definition IQ 100 is the average. Your premise fails on that point.
IQs of 85 to 80 generally means one has to be in a program/with an agency to help one perform the daily tasks of living. Such as shopping, cleaning one's house, doing laundry. Let alone holding a job and making a living-no way without help. Folk with IQs of 80 would die if left to their own devices. Are you suggesting that more than half the population of India and Africa can't take care of themselves?
I understand the conversation, but to answer the question from a different perspective, Jesus said one must become as a little child ,"as in, under the tutelage of the Father (God) "
The beauty of being under His tutelage, Is that he knows me inside and out ,my past and future /potential futures relative to my obedience to Him personally .
Adam's taste of the tree of knowledge changed man forever, , with this illusion of being god like, and seeming to operate with out Him.
This human intellect often gets in the way rather than helping ,and creates more problems than it solves.
I know of young children that when they had recieved Jesus Christ into their heart, and recieved the baptism of the Holy Spirit, their cavities in their teeth were filled with tooth material completely healed ,as well as many other miricals in their lives far beyond many adult believers .
Obedience is not an achievement but an attitude .
It cannot come from intellect but from a realtionship .
Many can operate the name of Jesus for healing and casting out deamons and such, but this does not certify one's affiliation with God. Matthew 7;21,22,23,
Knowing text is OK but, God is not manipulated by incantation, When Jesus taught us to pray He emphisized ,THY WILL BE DONE. not my will be done .
I have heard men pray like God doesn't know the scriptures, and can be bound by their inturpretation,or ignorant of what's going on, or worse preaching to Him , rather than yielding to Him.
That's not what Jesus taught .
But the arrogance of intellect, will always challange that fact.
By definition IQ 100 is the average. Your premise fails on that point.
IQs of 85 to 80 generally means one has to be in a program/with an agency to help one perform the daily tasks of living. Such as shopping, cleaning one's house, doing laundry. Let alone holding a job and making a living-no way without help. Folk with IQs of 80 would die if left to their own devices. Are you suggesting that more than half the population of India and Africa can't take care of themselves?
You're way off base on what IQ numbers mean. If you look here (or some place similar), you'll see that the conditions you describe generally apply to people with MUCH lower IQ scores than 80 (assuming you are using common scoring numbers, such as those on a Terman scale or a Stanford-Benet score).
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