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First of all, the Bible may not use the term "lesbian" but sex between women is most definitely mentioned in the Bible, and condemned.
If you read the 1st chapter of Romans you will see an exhaustive list of sins (homosexuality by both men and women included) here is what it says:
Romans 1:24-28 (New Living Translation)
So God abandoned them to do whatever shameful things their hearts desired. As a result they did vile and degrading things with each other's bodies.
They traded the ruth about God for a lie. So they worshiped and served the things God created instead of the Creator Himself, who is worthy of eternal praise! Amen. That is why God abandoned them to their shameful desires. Even the women turned against the natural way to have sex and instead indulged in sex with each other.And the men, instead of having normal sexual relations with women, burned with lust for each other. Men did shameful things with other men, and as a result of this sin, they suffered within themselves the penalty they deserved.
Since they thought it foolish to acknowledge God, He abandoned them to their foolish thinking and let them do things that should never be done.
God does not place any sin above another. He does say however, that sexual sin is different, in that it affects your body.
1 Corinthians 6:18
Run from sexual sin! No other sin so clearly affects the body as this one does. for sexual immorality is a sin against your own body.
God loves us! He is not some great "kill joy" in the sky. He created us; and just as we love our own children and don't want them to harm themselves, He does so even more.
The world is teaching us that everything is acceptable and ok. If we would only remember that history repeats itself and listen to the words of historian Arnold Toynbee and what his study of history revealed regarding immorality and previous nations;
"Of the 22 civilizations that have appeared in history, 19 of them collapsed when they reached the moral state America is in today."
If those of you who do not believe in the Bible, would take the time and truly read it with the intent of finding the truth, you would be amazed. Every prophecy written in God's Word has come to pass EXACTLY - with the exception of those prophecies concerning future events. Read Matthew 24 and tell me we aren't seeing some of those prophetic Words happening this very day.
I hope you will consider the above. God bless.
Amen to that Brother or Sister!!! ^^^...But As God does Love those in SIN, and wants all to recieve the eternal Gift of Life in Health and happiness...he has to resolve what Man and Woman cannot resolve themselves...as they have corrupted themselves, and now try to corrupt others to allow what should not be done....AS I SEE IT...the Lesbian Woman was created for the GAY MAN...SO AS TO KEEP THE WEDLOCK HOLY!...and if they abide in that : Twisted but UnTWISTED Joining of eachother...and LOVE the right way eachother, and all others by performing things as they should be done...Not as we want to do....for God is looking out for all Living things Best interests....as God created all things...He knows what is best for us....in that aspect of LIFE>
So if a Man wanting a man for Sex is a SIN to God's mind...and God expressed it as Such, and should be done away with....Here is a way to do Just that, without breaking the commandment Of Murder or killing....And so the ones who kill these people did gain SIN in Doing so.
Now we do not gain sin in killing them...and God made a way for them to correct their error...by Joining with eachother , In the right ways....This solves the sickness problem persay?....No sexual ludeness brings on Sickness and suffering with all Who do this....or for some...or for one....and it only takes one, to spread it to others....and in that we should all mind our bodies as a temple...and follow God's instructions, laws, and precepts...In Peace! ...In Health...and in Happiness and Joy.....
Unfortunately the world is in sin...and happiness is a delusion if one looks upon the whole...very depressing....If it is God looking on it...TODAY.
Just another Day, Just...Just another Sinner, Just another Evil, Just another war, Just another lie, Just another tax, Just another bent Rome, pompia....how may SINS Does it take To make the Anti Christ? ANTI God...ANTI EDEN... becomes Mucho Loco ..if we listen to all sinners and grant them rights to do the things told not to....
Are they learning?...NO...but that is What ANTI MEANS...They do not listen, nor see, nor understand...and they see the problems they create, and sweep em under the carpet.....and ask us to allow more of it.....
Tha gall of em ...when all they have to do is admit they are in error..and change what they do wrong...as they know it is wrong to do....But they will not do that.
It takes a real man...to admit error...and correct it....obviously Some who say they are men who like having sex with men...will never do....and they do not really want a Gay man...They want a real man....which would involve rape....as real men do not do what they do....Right?
So a real man who abides in the lord God and His Son...Will turn away if they say I am what I am in sin..and it should be allowed....while trying to dispell all the disease now upon the earth killing people because of their sins and evils....look how many!!!
That is why God said "do not do"...So much easier!
My wife and I attend a MCC (Metropolitan Community Church) where the pastor is a lesbian woman and the assistant pastor is a gay man.
Both are in committed relationships and are in a relationship with Christ.
The traditional fundamentalist model of shunning and exclusion has been replaced with inclusion and the celebration of the individual in the overall body of Christ.
Fundamentalist "" Christianity "" has been labeled extreme and bigoted because it is.
As the congregations of those churches that believe such continue to decline at a rapid rate you will see their voices raise in volume in a failed attempt to compensate for their ever shrinking presence in the Christian community.
Our church has a bell that rings as a symbolic gesture of the beginning of our worship service but it also acts as a bell that tolls the end of those that place hate and exclusion above the love of Christ.
If you read the 1st chapter of Romans you will see an exhaustive list of sins (homosexuality by both men and women included) here is what it says:
Romans 1:24-28 (New Living Translation)
So God abandoned them to do whatever shameful things their hearts desired. As a result they did vile and degrading things with each other's bodies.
They traded the ruth about God for a lie. So they worshiped and served the things God created instead of the Creator Himself, who is worthy of eternal praise! Amen. That is why God abandoned them to their shameful desires. Even the women turned against the natural way to have sex and instead indulged in sex with each other.And the men, instead of having normal sexual relations with women, burned with lust for each other. Men did shameful things with other men, and as a result of this sin, they suffered within themselves the penalty they deserved.
I searched this chapter and no where did I read the bolded portion above.
First of all, the Bible may not use the term "lesbian" but sex between women is most definitely mentioned in the Bible, and condemned.
If you read the 1st chapter of Romans you will see an exhaustive list of sins (homosexuality by both men and women included) here is what it says:
Romans 1:24-28 (New Living Translation) <snip>
Here's what those verses say in the King James Version (which some people say is the only correct version):
Quote:
24 Wherefore God also gave them up to uncleanness through the lusts of their own hearts, to dishonour their own bodies between themselves:
25 Who changed the truth of God into a lie, and worshiped and served the creature more than the Creator, who is blessed for ever. Amen.
26 For this cause God gave them up unto vile affections: for even their women did change the natural use into that which is against nature:
27 And likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust one toward another; men with men working that which is unseemly, and receiving in themselves that recompence of their error which was meet.
28 And even as they did not like to retain God in their knowledge, God gave them over to a reprobate mind, to do those things which are not convenient;
Well, god needs to stop disobeying then. Didn't his mama teach him better?
What My Mamma taught me...From her actions done in deed and wedlock...In my reality??..thinking Love ment something to some???..and marrying into wedlock with a man she knew was not right, and had children ...The Father went into incestual tactics with the Girl Chidren of a certain age in the family...Which when caught red hairingly in the almost act of doing....He was dispelled from the family home, of Poverty, and wedlock desolved.....and dispeared into the world for a time!
...And she married another worst than the first....and that one Gay, Perverted, Lying, secret Pedophile tried to get into my pants....By force...And I got away...Twice!
I told my Mother, when it happened...and she did not believe my Truth....
So mamma married him...Big Business and lots of money?..hard work, as we were enslaved by him as children.....which she says she did it for US.......Thanks Mamma....So I could not take the abuse of his hand and advancement, or his hatred that I was now holding his secret..To make my life bitter, so I would go away......and I ran away from home!...Cause I could not live there anymore with that threat, and that liar in my life.....
My Father died...He told me before hand, because my Mamma did not satify his sexual lust for sex...he turned to his own children to satify that.....and blamed her for his act of stupidity.
My stepfather Died due to cancer and other infections in his body brought on by his secret life...that I exposed once upon a time....Twice...and the one who needed to know, (cause othe children were at risk ) believed the lie told...rather than the truth...
He left all his Bla Blah...Bling bling to my Mother......."I did it for you children?"..She told me...when the doctor confirmed his secret life, with his own confession ontop of it all.....
What did my Mamma teach me?.....What did the world teach me?...What did God teach me?
And what are you teaching me?.....Not worth the effort to try to figure it out....So cause they are soon to be dead....Like wise all sin beget death...true?
Well some people say why do good people Die?....and God stands up and says
<WHAT GOOD PEOPLE>
SO Mamma taught me to marry bad people, and take what you can while you can, and try to forgive them of their stupidity...and move on...Life is too short to deal with other peoples problems...we have enough on our own plates...(sin)...fix that...and the others will get theirs in the end times....I think or ..I know...as it is what is written.....and so rewards should come forth...and wrath should also...being the opposite of Good...Bad!...being bad is what causes Plagues, pestilence, woes and wrath...and even fireseason....and that sometimes harms the whole.....
Again where is the love ...if that is so?...
There is no love in this world...only selfishness and evildoers...it seems....atleast from where I am standing....and I a small part of the way it is in the world Humans are making in error.....but I know there is something more that is just outside of it all.....telling me........the root cause of evil and sin...As Jesus said it was this or that...or both...the money and the money changers!...Both were expelled...and told...and forwarned....Forgive them they know not what they do......So as in heaven...it is so on earth...in the time of Jesus...he put the money outside...and brought the people inside..that were Good....and helped him...and he healed, But he asked do you believe, and follow God....Then in that little Faith they were healed...Do no more sin, and suffer no longer.
Now we know it to be true!...and so they killed Jesus, and brought that money and you know who back in....and it is ugly...but here comes the rain song again....Right?
Why are these people asking other people to accept something that does not apply to them, and or support them, when we know our hospital systems are over burdened with all kinds of Sicknesses, and suffering people due to a unknow? or Known?...if we follow scripture and our Mamma's word to be good according to God....Who all have held Money in their lives and are near death or dying..or living in sickness and suffering the burdens that live off their taxed hand..and even if not taxed sin and evil abound.....as being something to work for? or against?...when it is Causing so much SIN AND EVIL to be.....as Jesus said it does do...So stop using it..and some of that sin and evil will go away!
Now I draw a line...I do not want to help those who do not want to be helped....for it is futile to get positive results from a rebellious subject...and so I do not waste my time on it much these days???...as most of my life has been afflicted with this sort of thing going on , right at home! and in my enviorment!.....So I turned away from it....So should You!...are they gonna listen?...are they gonna do what they need to do????....NO...this has been going on for a long long time.....and My Mamma told me...Be Good...Be well...God bless!
And I try!..and I sinned ...forgiveness?....who is giving out forgiveness of sins....if sin continues...forgiveness means nothing...if they continue to sin.
...So should You?...remember I turned away....When I should of Killed!!!..Now you want my support?...my word? my understanding of some bent tangent in their heads, saying we are not like you, but we want to be treated like you, so we can rape you when you are born...so our sickness and the wrath and woes can come upon all, because we cannot change our minds and Follow God's reasoning..........
Hurry up and die then I say, If you will not stop sinning...then sin till you drop...it should not effect me either way.....as I do not do those sorts of things....But I do know the Animal and Human cusp is tainted...Because of stupid people.....the children are being born sick...or deformed...or worse...dead...or they become twisted in the head....and do all sorts of dumb dumb things to themselves and others...with the date rape drug...Why?/ could be something is not right here?....Could be?...ah the root cause of all sins and evils....the root..kill the root, stop the sins....So correct that, and maybe something will change to our favour of being born out of sin, instead of into it....and asking them to accept it?.....While I see the woe and pestilences, and plagues upon the table....again not thinking of the whole body of Humanity and its continuance in any healthy stste of being...only thinking of the perverted self....Is that what Your mamma taught you?...Good luck with that.
What My Mamma taught me...From her actions done in deed and wedlock...In my reality??..thinking Love ment something to some???..and marrying into wedlock with a man she knew was not right, and had children ...The Father went into incestual tactics with the Girl Chidren of a certain age in the family...Which when caught red hairingly in the almost act of doing....He was dispelled from the family home, of Poverty, and wedlock desolved.....and dispeared into the world for a time!
*snip of a bunch of stuff*
Wow, that was an awful lot of stuff replied to a simple word-game joke of mine. As Robert A Heinlein the great science fiction writer once said, “One man’s religion is another man’s belly laugh”.
You mentioned "being taught". For my people, we are taught humility and a lack of arrogance. We are taught that creation is part of us and we are part of it. These, accompanied by a tendency toward simple living, reinforces the ideal of non-exploitation of other living creatures to include other humans. Being aware that we will die and are connected to all things on earth makes us aware of the importance of concentrating on the ethical quality of our life as opposed to considerations of quantity of possessions or size of religious edifices. Creation is our church and our bible. We don’t have chapters and verses; we have trees, fish and animals. We have the wind and other forces of nature to teach us.
When humans lost that connection to his fellow creation, he lost his way. When you have people who see creation and nature as a primitive, wild, rude, untamed, savage and something to be controlled, tamed and exploited indiscriminately, well, how are they going to treat their fellow humans? This is the simple thing that people all over this planet have forgotten.
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