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Old 12-17-2019, 01:13 PM
 
Location: Sun City West, Arizona
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Maybe if you ever actually opened your eyes and mind you'd see them. They have been presented to you many, many times by those who know and understand the bible better than you.

(And no, I do not count myself among them. But I've seen you duck n' run from them over the years. Over and over and over again.)
There is such a thing as being blinded by faith.
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Old 12-17-2019, 01:13 PM
 
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Maybe if you ever actually opened your eyes and mind you'd see them. They have been presented to you many, many times by those who know and understand the bible better than you.

(And no, I do not count myself among them. But I've seen you duck n' run from them over the years. Over and over and over again.)
And answered every time
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Old 12-17-2019, 01:16 PM
 
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Maybe if you ever actually opened your eyes and mind you'd see them. They have been presented to you many, many times by those who know and understand the bible better than you.

(And no, I do not count myself among them. But I've seen you duck n' run from them over the years. Over and over and over again.)
I have seen the alleged "contradictions". BF is right. They have been resolved simply by reading correctly.
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Old 12-17-2019, 01:50 PM
 
Location: USA
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Weird. I've asked for examples of them, and no one has ever provided any.
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No. I'm saying that I haven't seen any "contradictions" presented that were not able to be resolved by looking at the context.
And I have seen them, so we’re at an impasse. The point remains that the answer to your question of what invalidates the Bible as the “word of God” is NOT the fact that believing it gives some people comfort. What invalidates it for many of us are the internal inconsistencies.
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Old 12-17-2019, 02:42 PM
 
Location: Elsewhere
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Either way, it's a dumb story.
It's a plot point. The wife has to be done away with in order for the daughters to get their father drunk and have sex with him. If she's alive/present, she's not going to allow it to happen.
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Old 12-17-2019, 02:43 PM
 
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It's not the fact that some people find comfort in believing some of what is written in the Bible that invalidates it; it is it's own internal inconsistencies as a whole that invalidates the possibility that as a whole it is "the word of God".
Well said. As usual.
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Old 12-17-2019, 07:36 PM
 
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It seems as if what BF believes is -- since "we" all believe it, it must be true.
and some of us say "I believe it" it must be true.

hmmm ... back to checking out the reliability.
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Old 12-18-2019, 03:55 AM
 
Location: Germany
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Weird. I've asked for examples of them, and no one has ever provided any.
Yes we have. You just pretend they are not contradictions, invent ad hoc excuses, or just deny what the Bible actually says.
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Old 12-18-2019, 03:56 AM
 
Location: Germany
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I have seen the alleged "contradictions". BF is right. They have been resolved simply by reading correctly.
They have been resolved simply by ignoring the evidence.
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Old 12-18-2019, 12:03 PM
 
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And I have seen them, so we’re at an impasse. The point remains that the answer to your question of what invalidates the Bible as the “word of God” is NOT the fact that believing it gives some people comfort. What invalidates it for many of us are the internal inconsistencies.
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