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Old 08-27-2013, 10:14 PM
 
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I was extremely disturbed by the reports of Nerve Gas being used by Assad on his people, but I'm quite troubled by all this fast talk of the U.S. and Europe entering the fray of a Civil War in Syria by Thursday. Can anything good really come from launching Cruise Missiles? Do you think the powers that be have considered the reaction of Russia, China and Iran to such a thing? Could we be headed for Armageddon?
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Old 08-27-2013, 10:59 PM
 
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I was extremely disturbed by the reports of Nerve Gas being used by Assad on his people, but I'm quite troubled by all this fast talk of the U.S. and Europe entering the fray of a Civil War in Syria by Thursday. Can anything good really come from launching Cruise Missiles? Do you think the powers that be have considered the reaction of Russia, China and Iran to such a thing? Could we be headed for Armageddon?
I hope not, Heartsong. I have little doubt that the Middle East WILL be the tinderbox for an Armageddon (if it occurs). I cannot rationalize the existence and perpetuation of the hatred over there. They are corrupting each new generation with old hatreds and fomenting violence all in the name of whatever God they think they worship. It boggles my mind.
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Old 08-27-2013, 11:03 PM
 
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What does this have to do with religion?
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Old 08-27-2013, 11:07 PM
 
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What does this have to do with religion?
Does the term Armageddon ring a bell? Syria is being torn apart internally by religious fanatics fighting a political tyrant. It has religious overtones.
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Old 08-27-2013, 11:09 PM
 
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Does the term Armageddon ring a bell? Syria is being torn apart internally by religious fanatics fighting a political tyrant. It has religious overtones.
Lots of things have religious overtones. Just sounded more like a topic for current events or politics.
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Old 08-28-2013, 06:29 AM
 
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It's only armageddon for you right now if your the target of the nerve gas.
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Old 08-28-2013, 08:55 AM
 
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I don't think it has anything to do with Armageddon and as long as the mission doesn't suffer scope creep, I'm all for giving Assad a good sound spanking for inflicting such suffering on innocents to preserve his lifestyle and ego, particularly given that there is world community support for said spanking. My main concern is Russia's bellicose posturing, but that's probably just to keep up appearances with its "business partners" in the Middle East.

Symbolically I'd like to see his palace vaporized almost more than the military targets and chemical weapons depots being hit. He won't be in it with this much warning anyway, and that would hit him where it hurts more than almost anything else we could do. Annihilate the wife's shoe and evening gown collections, and ironically, it will probably put more pressure on him than surgical military strikes.
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Old 08-28-2013, 10:57 AM
 
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Does the term Armageddon ring a bell? Syria is being torn apart internally by religious fanatics fighting a political tyrant. It has religious overtones.
Thank you, Mystic. I'd say that most things going on in the world are intertwined with religious persuasions.
I have always believed in Armageddon because of the saying of Jesus about the war to end all wars. I also tend to think that the annihilation of man may be a necessary evil that God has planned for to end our subjection to mortality. These are only my personal speculations - I definitely do not preach to anyone. But I am troubled by the ominous situation and who wouldn't be if we really think about it. Sure, I keep on working and going about my daily life as usual, but to hear the stories of how horrible it was for the people to be killed and made sick with Serine Gas was really repulsive - I believe Assad is a mad man.
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Old 08-28-2013, 12:04 PM
 
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[color="RoyalBlue"]Thank you, Mystic. I'd say that most things going on in the world are intertwined with religious persuasions.
I have always believed in Armageddon because of the saying of Jesus about the war to end all wars. I also tend to think that the annihilation of man may be a necessary evil that God has planned for to end our subjection to mortality.
I do not think we should let these things color our hopefully measured responses to events in that region of the world. Even in the days when I believed in fundamentalist eschatology and that the return of Christ was imminent (for some given value of "imminent"), I knew that it was dicey and dangerous to respond to events in the Middle East while trying to read eschatological tea leaves. There is too much of a human tendency to see what you want to see ("even so, come Lord Jesus").

This particular response is not looking for regime change but as a warning shot across the bow -- that Syria's internal affairs are their business, but becomes the world's business when it flops its hairy toe across certain lines. Gassing his own people should cost Assad something personally -- which is why I'd love to see his palace vaporized -- and it should cost him a bit of his sense of personal security and power -- which is why his military needs to be hit hard enough to wonder whether they should blindly take such orders.

Regrettably, sociopaths have not generally been responsive to spankings because they are also usually narcissists and you can't usually take them down a peg. My guess is that the options that will be given to the President will include some choice in the degree to which Assad's rule may be weakened just enough to set in motion a chain of events deniably leading to his ouster. Always assuming, of course, that what rushes into that power vacuum isn't even worse. That's always the problem in dealing with the Middle East. Be careful what you ask for; you might get it!
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