About faith!

[Mona Mee]

Originally Posted by Rmof

You still haven't answered my question; in what kind of god do you believe in, and why? Faith in the christian god means you have already made up your mind about the understanding of life. And the "knowledge" you get from the bible says god has a plan for everything. He is also allknowing, he knows everything that has happened and everything that will happen, and the bible says that he made that plan, so he has decided in advance what is ever going to happen. That includes every choice anyone/anything will ever make. So if you believe that, you believe that free will doesn't exist.

I believe in God who creates this world and yes HE Did . I believe in his existence because that makes sence to me .
Well , Your words mean that I am not responsible about anything in my life . My choices ,my successes ,my failure friendships and relationships , my wants and needs .....everything . So I don't need to think anymore because there is an advanced plan to my life , I am just an instrument to make it real . so heaven and hell are not my choices ,it is will of god .
I think that is a relief for me because I feel guilty all time about what I did in my life and I did not realize good results because of my errors of my way .
I have never said God wanted me to fail . I always say that it is my fault .

[Rmof]

I assume you believe in a god that created our entire universe, not just this planet. If you believe in "god's divine plan", you believe god has planned everythig that is ever going to happen, and that includes choices. So if you believe that, you are extremely immoral; you think that "god" is accountable for everything anyone does and that no one should be blamed for their actions, you believe it is god's will.

How can our reality make more sense if an allknowing, allpowerfull god created it? What I'm getting at is, why, if this god exists, aren't we in "heaven" from the beginning? You might say that we are born into this world to get experience and mature. Why then, if he is allpowerfull, didn't he create "souls" who already are experienced, mature and moral in the first place? The only conclusion would be that he has created everything for his own twisted amusement. He would be an immoral god of perversion, who's greatest desire is to watch living things live out their lives in random chance, and "enjoying the show".