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Absolutely not true. Christianity is growing dramatically by all type of ages and people. 80% of Americans are Christians
BTW why would someone be happy of the "decline" of a religion that teaches love, peace and forgiveness?!?!
Because Christianity does NOT really teach these values. Think about how many wars were started by Christians even between two sects. Look how little forgiveness Christians have for those who do anything they disapprove of.
Absolutely not true. Christianity is growing dramatically by all type of ages and people. 80% of Americans are Christians
BTW why would someone be happy of the "decline" of a religion that teaches love, peace and forgiveness?!?!
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Because Christianity does NOT really teach these values. Think about how many wars were started by Christians even between two sects. Look how little forgiveness Christians have for those who do anything they disapprove of.
Yes, we do. Down where people live, in the local church. We're not like Westboro Baptist.
Absolutely not true. Christianity is growing dramatically by all type of ages and people. 80% of Americans are Christians
BTW why would someone be happy of the "decline" of a religion that teaches love, peace and forgiveness?!?!
Actually Christianity is not growing, but is shrinking....Among Americans ages 18-29, one-in-four say they are not currently affiliated with any particular religion.
Maybe they're disliked by most religious groups - but atheists tend to be the most level headed and rational. They're not disliked by mainstream society outside of the intense religious circles.
Or atheist fanboys of Richard Dawkins or Christopher Hitchens that close their minds and are sheep to a book and societal pressure?
Er no. I have not read or follow any of these guys. They tend to make inroads into the US a there it is not PC to "bash" religions.
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And most immorality that I know of in this world is done by people that don't follow the morality of God.
Really? I like how you guys often play the ad populum card i.e. 80% theist and 10% atheist and then whenever one of the "morality" issues come up like porn for instance, it cannot be the mere 10% that sustain this industry. Google stats of searches clearly show these to be the highest in red and typically christian orientated states. Of course then you play the no true Scotsman fallacy card to brush this under the carpet of inconvenience.
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Your'e right...there is a reason it's fading. It's fading because closed-minded people who would rather live for their own natural desires are leaving organized religion.
No it is fading because folk are now able to fact check everything they were spoon fed. It really is no biggie as it becomes a self fulfilling prophesy enabling religious woos in that it is a sign of the end times with the "great falling away". IOW it is never ever the fault of religion(s).
Reductio ad Hitlerum; especially since I really don't care if Hitler would be proud of me, i don't care if 6 year old Hilter would be proud of me, I don't care if 40 year old Hitler would be proud of me. I don't care if he would dislike me for not being a strict vegetarian, I don't care if he would dislike me for mingling with his enemies, who included the not pro-Natzi or communist atheists.
you honestly didn't bother to read the rest of my response. I don't model my life on being the opposite of others that I don't like. Hitler had his good and bad, and he went astray when he thought his actions were aligned to his hopes for the future, or that his hopes were aligned with the rest of world-wide society.
Anyway, if you would think about it, Hitler would be proud of you most, as a likely "God With Us" type.
Think not of Hitler's morals, think of your own, as you would not likely worship God if it wasn't for your hopes of a hedonistic afterlife for yourself (your hopes and wishes) and those you care about.
Did Hitler's Christian upbringing somehow stop him? Would he have stopped if his Morals were (outwardly) similarly egostical to religious fear-based after-life morals? I don't think so, since he himself liked how easy religion was willing to be whored for power. I've even read something about him having written something about how Islam was more aligned with Jesus' "real" teachings of antisemitism than Catholicism or Protestantism. He read the Gospels, and all he saw there was Jesus being a violent self-obsessed individual, and that is how Hitler modeled his life also, he often repeated that fact himself. Hitler loved Jesus, and disliked pacifism.
If Hitler was a secrete Atheist, then he could have been a secrete egotist too, although the secrete part is unlikely. How do Hitler's morals not align with you God's? For all you know, your God set it up perfectly to go down as it did. Very reminiscent of Old Testament (the killings, rules, and xenophobia) and New Testament (martyrdom and temple-chasing) stuff.
If God will sort it out, then God will sort it out. But in case our Invisible Father doesn't step up to the plate, we might as well work for something ourselves. I'm not going to base my morals on idolizing any ideas of the Ennead, much less any ideas of the Trinity, much less any ideas of Allah.
Morals are ALL human.
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Because Christianity does NOT really teach these values. Think about how many wars were started by Christians even between two sects. Look how little forgiveness Christians have for those who do anything they disapprove of.
Indeed,
Love, Peace, and Forgiveness can teach themselves by themselves (through people), superbly.
Or atheist fanboys of Richard Dawkins or Christopher Hitchens that close their minds and are sheep to a book and societal pressure?
And most immorality that I know of in this world is done by people that don't follow the morality of God.
Your'e right...there is a reason it's fading. It's fading because closed-minded people who would rather live for their own natural desires are leaving organized religion.
I think you must have meant to type "open minded", because otherwise it doesn't make any sense.
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