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Old 11-20-2013, 03:16 PM
 
Location: NJ
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I wish life were this easy...

you walk out the door and trust that you won't get deceived...

you take a test in school and you trust that others won't cheat...

you have a significant other and you trust they won't cheat on you...

If there is no higher power guiding them then how can one be trusted...?
But not any higher power, right? Just the one you believe in.

 
Old 11-20-2013, 03:17 PM
 
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First of all, the Bible never says that God "made a mistake and that Christians were the real chosen ones". Jewish people can still be saved by embracing the Messiah (Christ).

Having said that, many atheists are very nice, loving people. But I do agree that without a standard of right and wrong that is bigger than the person, we have no way of truly judging who is good and moral. If it were up to what society thought about an issue, then Hitler could conceivably been considered a good and moral man.

HHMM I agree just look at the world today.
 
Old 11-20-2013, 03:18 PM
 
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Is it moral to pay someone a dollar a day to make something that someone in another country would get paid $12 to do?
 
Old 11-20-2013, 03:22 PM
 
Location: NJ
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Is it moral to pay someone a dollar a day to make something that someone in another country would get paid $12 to do?
Maybe. If their cost of living is that much less.

But what on earth does that have to do with your OP?
 
Old 11-20-2013, 03:23 PM
 
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This thread is going to be awesome. I can feel it.
This thread is not a joke to me. It's a question as an Adult that I have never asked or talked to anyone about, before.
 
Old 11-20-2013, 03:25 PM
 
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Is it moral to pay someone a dollar a day to make something that someone in another country would get paid $12 to do?
Funny how you've conveniently failed to respond to the answers to your questions and simply continue like they never existed. You should have more respect for those who were kind enough to address your questions/concerns.
 
Old 11-20-2013, 03:25 PM
 
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Everyone has the same moral codes written on their hearts. Most people ignore it, the rest can't live up to it, atheists don't accept it's from God, and Christians do.
 
Old 11-20-2013, 03:25 PM
 
Location: Vermont
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How do you determine what is right and wrong? Suppose I wanted to rape, pillage, and murder. Is that wrong?
As an atheist, I know that I will not be punished for all eternity if I rape, pillage, and murder. I guess I can do it as much as I want.

Come to think of it, I do do it as much as I want, which is never.

Do you really need the threat of eternal punishment or the promise of eternal reward to keep you from raping, pillaging, and murdering? And you think we're the immoral ones?
 
Old 11-20-2013, 03:25 PM
 
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But not any higher power, right? Just the one you believe in.

Hmm, this is a difficult topic to talk about without ruffling a few feathers.
 
Old 11-20-2013, 03:26 PM
 
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Everyone has the same moral codes written on their hearts. Most people ignore it, the rest can't live up to it, atheists don't accept it's from God, and Christians do.
If they are the same, what are they? Are they objective and/or absolute?
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