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I cannot remember for the life of me where I heard this, and I hate to take the thread off topic, but is it true that in England some of your tax money goes to the Church of England? Just curious.
Also, I saw something the other day on Princess Diana. I was curious as to where the royal family gets their money from?? I hate to sound ignorant to British politics but since England, at least to my knowledge, is no longer a monarchy, is some portion of tax money given to the royal family? Or is it money that has just been established over the centuries and used independently?
Yes, a certain amount of tax money does fund the church of england
And Yes, it is the tax payer that funds the "hereditary" monarchy. It boggles my mind that people think it is ok for this family (of which there are a great deal of people scattered accross England) to live in absolute wealth. They contribute nothing and take everything.
If it was up to me, the monarchy would end after the Queen.
If it was up to me, the monarchy would end after the Queen.
I agree. Why should all the Dutch citizens all over the world pay the Dutch royalty a percentage of their earnings?
Royalty are just as smart or as stupid as everyone else.
If they get a part of everyone's money, then so should everyone else. If we could achieve all that we have true socialism.
Yes, a certain amount of tax money does fund the church of england
And Yes, it is the tax payer that funds the "hereditary" monarchy. It boggles my mind that people think it is ok for this family (of which there are a great deal of people scattered accross England) to live in absolute wealth. They contribute nothing and take everything.
If it was up to me, the monarchy would end after the Queen.
Thank goodness for common sense.
If you truly mean this, please join a growing group of Republicans ( if you haven't already) and try and end the royal farce ( Republic | The Campaign for an Elected Head of State) . How can the UK claim to be a modern democracy when we have a non elected head of state and a system which relies on inherited privileges and wealth ?
I was outraged that you cannot become an MP , democratically elected by your constituents if you refuse to pledge allegiance to the Queen. One must if one is a Republican lie or do as Denis Skinner cross one's finger's behind one's back whilst reading the oath. It is an outrageous insult to the name of democracy.
When I marry I might get dual Nationality and as such would have to swear allegiance to the monarch,something I am not prepared to do. Republic is at the moment trying a legal case, challenging this as a citizen to be who is a Republican has the same problem... It will be interesting to see if common sense prevails.
The mind boggles.
A monarchy is an anachronistic, undemocratic aberration which costs us billions of pounds and should be scrapped.
It is high time for our society to get out of this dated mindset where some people are above others not because of their moral, intellectual worth, talent or inherent goodness but because some bloke a thousand years ago won some battle.
The reverence towards the monarchy some exhibit is quite sickening.
Sorry for being off topic but I for one would like to see the balance of justice and fairness restored in favour of those of real merit.
As for the Church of England why on earth should it be excluded from applying for planning permission ( an example my partner who is a Town Planner deals with ) when other denominations or atheists organisations do not have the same privilege. Why should any of our taxes go to what should be a private "company" not a publically funded institution? Yes there is a historical precedent but you would think we have now evolved from this idea that whatever was centuries ago has to stand nowadays.
Time for a bloodless revolution, I think. One of the mind where reason replaces obsequiousness.
I love traditions as much as the next person but if it affects the political and social well being of my fellow human beings then I have a problem with it.
Thank goodness for common sense.
If you truly mean this, please join a growing group of Republicans ( if you haven't already) and try and end the royal farce ( Republic | The Campaign for an Elected Head of State) . How can the UK claim to be a modern democracy when we have a non elected head of state and a system which relies on inherited privileges and wealth ?
I was outraged that you cannot become an MP , democratically elected by your constituents if you refuse to pledge allegiance to the Queen. One must if one is a Republican lie or do as Denis Skinner cross one's finger's behind one's back whilst reading the oath. It is an outrageous insult to the name of democracy.
When I marry I might get dual Nationality and as such would have to swear allegiance to the monarch,something I am not prepared to do. Republic is at the moment trying a legal case, challenging this as a citizen to be who is a Republican has the same problem... It will be interesting to see if common sense prevails.
The mind boggles.
A monarchy is an anachronistic, undemocratic aberration which costs us billions of pounds and should be scrapped.
It is high time for our society to get out of this dated mindset where some people are above others not because of their moral, intellectual worth, talent or inherent goodness but because some bloke a thousand years ago won some battle.
The reverence towards the monarchy some exhibit is quite sickening.
Sorry for being off topic but I for one would like to see the balance of justice and fairness restored in favour of those of real merit.
As for the Church of England why on earth should it be excluded from applying for planning permission ( an example my partner who is a Town Planner deals with ) when other denominations or atheists organisations do not have the same privilege. Why should any of our taxes go to what should be a private "company" not a publically funded institution? Yes there is a historical precedent but you would think we have now evolved from this idea that whatever was centuries ago has to stand nowadays.
Time for a bloodless revolution, I think. One of the mind where reason replaces obsequiousness.
I love traditions as much as the next person but if it affects the political and social well being of my fellow human beings then I have a problem with it.
This is off topic... BUT, I will check out your link. For those of us that despise the idea of the monarchy, it is infuriating to hear people say things like "its our tradition", or "they bring in tourism". The whole system makes my blood boil both on economic terms, and also on ethic and moral arguments against absolue wealth.
The guards march past my apartment window every other day on their way to the castle, and whilst entertaining, it is a disgusting waste of money.
I can't rep your above post as I have to spread some reputation around, but extra mega rep points for your points above.
Yes, a certain amount of tax money does fund the church of england
And Yes, it is the tax payer that funds the "hereditary" monarchy. It boggles my mind that people think it is ok for this family (of which there are a great deal of people scattered accross England) to live in absolute wealth. They contribute nothing and take everything.
If it was up to me, the monarchy would end after the Queen.
In what sense does the public fund the monarchy? Did you see my previous post on this thread (//www.city-data.com/forum/relig...ml#post2113455) with excerpts that mention the uses of at least some of the revenues derived from the Crown Estate, for instance.
In what sense does the public fund the monarchy? Did you see my previous post on this thread (//www.city-data.com/forum/relig...ml#post2113455) with excerpts that mention the uses of at least some of the revenues derived from the Crown Estate, for instance.
The monarchy costs the taxpayer a fortune. Revenue comes from a variety of sources, some of which your post details, although this is still publicly funded, and an opportunity cost to the British public.
Even if you take away the economic arguments against the monarchy, it is surely ethically unjust for a democracy to fund and maintain a wealthy family, whilst underfunding education, national health, and welfare.
Even if you take away the economic arguments against the monarchy, it is surely ethically unjust for a democracy to fund and maintain a wealthy family, whilst underfunding education, national health, and welfare.
Aren't royalty the true 'chosen' people?
By chosen people I mean chosen by the gods, since they truly live a very privileged life?
Originally Posted by Kuharai True, but you implied that we Europeans still flog people or stone people to death for believing that religion is dumb.
Actually, I was referring to the olden days of Europe... back when America was the "land of the free" and free from the religious oppression and prosecution of Europe. Sorry if I didn't make that clear.
From my experiences, Europeans are actually more for equality among religion than America is. But this wasn't true 200 years ago or even further back in time.
But, in the end, I think religion has no place in politics.
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True, but you implied that we Europeans still flog people or stone people to death for believing that religion is dumb.
Aren't royalty the true 'chosen' people? 
