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Old 12-11-2013, 04:33 PM
 
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Just wondering if any one else has met people that call themselves "atheists". Do they seem like genuine and sincerely honest people to you? There are plenty of people who call themselves "Christians" that are unhappy and miserable too but they are not really yet Christian in heart and have a little ways to go.
I would say most atheists seem unhappy to you because they've had to deal with you.

 
Old 12-11-2013, 04:35 PM
 
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What I mean is that Christianity is about the fact that Jesus died on a cross as an atoniing sacrifice to pay the penalty for my sin in order to appease the wrath of an angry God. If we trust in Jesus, we will be with God in heaven someday.
God is not wrathful or angry. He sent Jesus as a way for us to get into Heaven because when Lucifer and the fallen angels left their abode by their own will and choice and went against God, sin was created and entered into the kingdom. Once God rebuked and sent them all to Hell, sin was never allowed into the kingdom again. God sent Jesus down to Earth as a way for us to get into Heaven. That's why you need his blood sacrifice. Not to appease his wrath.

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Old 12-11-2013, 04:39 PM
 
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I find myself wondering how many atheists the OP has actually met -- that is, what's the sample size? Hard to generalize if it's just a few. Since there are SO MANY of us non-believers, most generalizations don't make sense.
 
Old 12-11-2013, 04:55 PM
 
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God is not wrathful or angry. He sent Jesus as a way for us to get into Heaven because when Lucifer and the fallen angels left their abode by their own will and choice and went against God, sin was created and entered into the kingdom. Once God rebuked and sent them all to Hell, sin was never allowed into the kingdom again. God sent Jesus down to Earth as a way for us to get into Heaven. That's why you need his blood sacrifice. Not to appease his wrath.
Let me see if I'm grasping this correctly:

Because somebody else ticked God off, he decided the only way to fix the situation was to send his son to be tortured to death?

And this God can do anything he wants merely by thinking it into being?

And what his almighty brain came up with was: "I know! I'll have Jesus get tortured and killed! That'll teach Satan and all those other disobedient angels a lesson!"

You're right, he's not wrathful or angry.

Nor is he real bright.
 
Old 12-11-2013, 05:09 PM
 
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There is very little real debate or respectful discussion in this thread.

A whole lot of baiting and insulting each other though is reason to close the door
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