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The weird thing is Essie claims to be a Uni yet has this weird biblical literalist outlook. He cites the YLT or CLT as if this was THE translation. That translation "managed to get all the stuff right". With so many meanings to words found in a concordance, you can translate the book to mean anything you want it to. They have been doing that since the printing press was invented. I am sure hoever he is just jerking our collective chains.
You do not understand the concordant methodology of translating principles.
This is probably a dumb question so forgive my ignorance, and it's not necessarily linked to the debate between Nye and Ham. I don't necessarily know the process of how rocks form, but if we were to test a newly formed rock (with radio carbon dating for starters), would we expect it to have an age of around a year old give or take?
This is probably a dumb question so forgive my ignorance, and it's not necessarily linked to the debate between Nye and Ham. I don't necessarily know the process of how rocks form, but if we were to test a newly formed rock (with radio carbon dating for starters), would we expect it to have an age of around a year old give or take?
IIRC that particular method is based on the half-life of a particular isotope so it only works with any accuracy for time spans greater than or equal to one of those half-lives. So for instance if the half life is 100 years you won't get accurate dating for anything less than a century old, maybe even two centuries. You should Google for specifics.
There are some methods that will work with some kinds of materials to narrow down to finer-grain time frames, as little as a decade, as with the recent camel bones discovery we discuss on another thread.
Generally these methods all work by determining a constant rate of measurable change in composition over time, and since their very purpose is to locate the provenance of things in the distant past, the tendency is to measure things that change slowly.
The things that change quickly and let us determine, for instance, how many hours or even minutes a corpse has been dead, also tend not to survive for long periods of time to be examined thousands or millions of years after the fact. That is why we are restricted to picking through bones, fossils, rocks, stone or metal artifacts, etc. to determine the age of very old things, and why the dating methods tend to be of lower resolution (although resolution says nothing about accuracy within that range).
Obviously you speak out of ignorance concerning me.
I don't want God to condemn anyone to the mythological Dantean hell. I believe God will save everyone.
Then how will anyone be "called to account?"
Will God simply waggle his finger and say, "No jokes! No laughing! You can feel joy, but only by worshiping me. Joking, laughing, and simply having fun is expressly forbidden! Now go and bask in my glory since there's nothing else for you to do here in heaven - except admire the gold streets."
Originally Posted by Eusebius Obviously you speak out of ignorance concerning me.
I don't want God to condemn anyone to the mythological Dantean hell. I believe God will save everyone.
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Then how will anyone be "called to account?"
Even though God is going to eventually save all mankind there are still judgments for mankind to set them straight. Mankind must still give an account of what they said and did. Giving an account is a neutral act. It neither admits guilt or innocence. It is just someone saying how something occurred or what they did or said. After all setting straight is done, some will enter into the second death and remain there until death is abolished. Then they will all enter salvation.
02-22-2014, 11:23 AM
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Even though God is going to eventually save all mankind there are still judgments for mankind to set them straight. Mankind must still give an account of what they said and did. Giving an account is a neutral act. It neither admits guilt or innocence. It is just someone saying how something occurred or what they did or said. After all setting straight is done, some will enter into the second death and remain there until death is abolished. Then they will all enter salvation.
This does not make any sense with an omniscient God - he should just pass 'account' and go straight to death. Usually and accounting is not neutral - it has to do with justice/punishment.
This does not make any sense with an omniscient God - he should just pass 'account' and go straight to death. Usually and accounting is not neutral - it has to do with justice/punishment.
It makes perfect sense with an omniscient God. Even though He knows all, the human does not. That is why He needs to judge (set straight) all mankind as to what really was necessary in all of life's varied vicissitudes.
For instance, suppose your daughter were murdered. Wouldn't you love to know all the real reasons for the why's of such an act and just what God is going to do to correct it?
02-22-2014, 01:22 PM
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It makes perfect sense with an omniscient God. Even though He knows all, the human does not. That is why He needs to judge (set straight) all mankind as to what really was necessary in all of life's varied vicissitudes.
For instance, suppose your daughter were murdered. Wouldn't you love to know all the real reasons for the why's of such an act and just what God is going to do to correct it?
That's not what you said! You said it was neutraland that Iwould have to give an account - not God accounting for it.
Look, I really don't care just be make sense of this fairytale - that's all.
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Usually and accounting is not neutral - it has to do with justice/punishment. 
