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Old 02-24-2014, 11:01 AM
 
Location: Vernon, British Columbia
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Wait a second, why do you say there were no seasons before Noah? Genesis 1:14 says there were seasons.
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Old 02-24-2014, 11:05 AM
 
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Wait a second, why do you say there were no seasons before Noah? Genesis 1:14 says there were seasons.
Really?
Gen 1:14 And saying is the Elohim, "Become shall luminaries in the atmosphere of the heavens, to give light on the earth, to separate between the day and the night. And they come to be for signs and for appointments, and for days and years.
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Old 02-24-2014, 11:13 AM
 
Location: Vernon, British Columbia
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Really?
Gen 1:14 And saying is the Elohim, "Become shall luminaries in the atmosphere of the heavens, to give light on the earth, to separate between the day and the night. And they come to be for signs and for appointments, and for days and years.
Whatever, depends what version you read. The Bible is but one source of knowledge (which seems to be agnostic about seasons if I take your version). Why wouldn't there be seasons in the pre-flood time? Do you have any sort of scientific evidence for this? ie. petrified trees without rings. Remember, even tropical trees today have rings despite little variation from season to season.
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Old 02-24-2014, 11:28 AM
 
Location: CA
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Did they cut down that tree and count all the growth rings?

Also, there should only be approximately 4,500 growth rings even if it was over 6,000 years old since, prior to Noah's world-wide flood, the world did not have different seasons which would put trees into dormancy.

The small Limber Pine tree in California, which I have seen while back packing in the wilderness, is supposed to be 2,000 years old.
That particular tree that was posted? I don't know. Some trees you wouldn't want to cut down to count their rings so, you can count the rings through dendrochronology and then others through carbon dating. But I know carbon dating isn't trusted by YEC.


"...prior to Noah's world-wide flood, the world did not have different seasons which would put trees into dormancy."

Okay, I'll bite. What scientific proof (scientists peer reviewed, published in respected scientific journals only please. No Bible quotes), do you have for this?
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Old 02-24-2014, 11:30 AM
 
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Did they cut down that tree and count all the growth rings?

Also, there should only be approximately 4,500 growth rings even if it was over 6,000 years old since, prior to Noah's world-wide flood, the world did not have different seasons which would put trees into dormancy.

The small Limber Pine tree in California, which I have seen while back packing in the wilderness, is supposed to be 2,000 years old.
So, you are saying that the Earth didn't tilt on its axis? And your evidence for this is what?
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Old 02-24-2014, 12:52 PM
 
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So, you are saying that the Earth didn't tilt on its axis? And your evidence for this is what?
Why are you stating I said "that the earth didn't tilt on its axis"?
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Old 02-24-2014, 12:54 PM
 
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That particular tree that was posted? I don't know. Some trees you wouldn't want to cut down to count their rings so, you can count the rings through dendrochronology and then others through carbon dating. But I know carbon dating isn't trusted by YEC.


"...prior to Noah's world-wide flood, the world did not have different seasons which would put trees into dormancy."

Okay, I'll bite. What scientific proof (scientists peer reviewed, published in respected scientific journals only please. No Bible quotes), do you have for this?
The same scientific peer reviewed, published in respected scientific journals you can find that God does not exist.
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Old 02-24-2014, 12:57 PM
 
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Why are you stating I said "that the earth didn't tilt on its axis"?
Because you stated that the Earth didn't have different seasons. Surely, you realize that the Earth's tilt causes the seasons, right?
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Old 02-24-2014, 01:07 PM
 
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Whatever, depends what version you read. The Bible is but one source of knowledge (which seems to be agnostic about seasons if I take your version). Why wouldn't there be seasons in the pre-flood time? Do you have any sort of scientific evidence for this? ie. petrified trees without rings. Remember, even tropical trees today have rings despite little variation from season to season.
When they discovered Noah's Ark, the petrified wood that had pitch on it did not have rings.

This site: CCMR - Ask A Scientist! state:

"You know what's kind of neat? Trees native to places where temperature and day length stay the same all
the time don't produce annual rings. They may make rings, but you can't use them to tell how old a tree is."


The earth tilted at its current tilt either during or right after the flood in Noah's day.

This explains a lot of it. The Mars-Earth Wars, by Patten and Windsor
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Old 02-24-2014, 01:09 PM
 
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Because you stated that the Earth didn't have different seasons. Surely, you realize that the Earth's tilt causes the seasons, right?
Why would I say "the earth did not tilt on its axis" when it surely did?

Of course the tilt of the earth causes seasons. My point is that prior to the flood the earth did not tilt on its axis.
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