New discovery dates the exact time of Camel domestication in Israel (myth, bible)

[whoppers]

For anyone who has studied the anachronistic mentions of Camel domestication in the Patriarchal and Joban narratives in the Hebrew Bible in relation to the actual evidence we have for when the Camels were first introduced into Ancient Palestine (12th century), new archaeological evidence from Israeli archeologists via the method of radio-carbon dating has brought the earliest date up by quite a few centuries to the 9th century BCE. See here: Archaeologists pinpoint date when domesticated camels arrived in Israel | ScienceBlog.com

This should be interesting to many of you interested in the dates and authorship of many Biblical books, and annoying to some of you who still refuse to extract yourselves from traditional, evidence-free dating and authorship ideas.


Here's a picture to help figure out why this is important to dating a text.

Now... from at least WHAT is the earliest possible date in time can this scene have occurred (barring the obvious fact that it's an animated Looney Tunes cartoon hee hee)? HINT: date the rifle.
And if a domesticated camel being present in Ancient Palestine is mentioned in a Biblical book, from at least WHAT is the earliest possible date in time that this book can have been written? HINT: date the domestication of camels in Ancient Palestine:

[Bideshi]

That's "BC" for before Christ.

[Mr5150]

Originally Posted by whoppers

For anyone who has studied the anachronistic mentions of Camel domestication in the Patriarchal and Joban narratives in the Hebrew Bible in relation to the actual evidence we have for when the Camels were first introduced into Ancient Palestine (12th century), new archaeological evidence from Israeli archeologists via the method of radio-carbon dating has brought the earliest date up by quite a few centuries to the 9th century BCE. See here: Archaeologists pinpoint date when domesticated camels arrived in Israel | ScienceBlog.com

This should be interesting to many of you interested in the dates and authorship of many Biblical books, and annoying to some of you who still refuse to extract yourselves from traditional, evidence-free dating and authorship ideas.

Misleading title and conclusions jumped.

That article references to oldest camel bones found to this date. Camels were domesticated well before 1200 BC. And not that far from Israel.
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Dromedaries were probably domesticated in coastal settlements along the southern Arabian peninsula somewhere between 3000 and 2500 BC. The earliest reference to camels in Arabia is the Sihi mandible, a camelid bone direct dated to ca 7100-7200 cal BC, or about 8200 RCYBP. Sihi is a Neolithic coastal site in Yemen, and the bone is probably a wild dromedary. The earliest camels in Africa are from Qasr Ibrim, Nubia, 9th century BC.
Evidence for the domestication of Bactrian camels has been found as early as 2600 BC at Shar-i Sokhta (also known as the Burnt City), Iran.


Camels - Domestication History

[Unsettomati]

Originally Posted by Mr5150

That article references to oldest camel bones found to this date. Camels were domesticated well before 1200 BC.

The article isn't about when the camel was domesticated.

The article is about...

whoppers [emphasis mine]:

For anyone who has studied the anachronistic mentions of Camel domestication in the Patriarchal and Joban narratives in the Hebrew Bible in relation to the actual evidence we have for when the Camels were first introduced into Ancient Palestine (12th century), new archaeological evidence from Israeli archeologists via the method of radio-carbon dating has brought the earliest date up by quite a few centuries to the 9th century BCE.

And the article whoppers linked makes this very clear.

Archaeologists have established that camels were probably domesticated in the Arabian Peninsula for use as pack animals sometime towards the end of the 2nd millennium BCE.

[DewDropInn]

Going solely by the image: Sometime between 1851 which is when the Yosemite Valley was named by Lafayette Bunnell and 1955 which was when "Sahara Hare" was released. Rifle-dating would be dependent on knowing when they were produced without triggers. Small wonder Sam had to use it as a club.

[whoppers]

Originally Posted by Bideshi

That's "BC" for before Christ.

Or "BCE" for "Before Common Era" - exactly as I intended as a more-inclusive dating method that has become the norm in historical dating methods.

I'm well aware of the older "Before Christ" term.

[whoppers]

Originally Posted by Unsettomati

The article isn't about when the camel was domesticated.

The article is about...

whoppers [emphasis mine]:


And the article whoppers linked makes this very clear.

Yes indeed - thank you.
The title is not misleading at all, especially if one takes the time to actually read the article I posted.

I think we've already brought a few people out of the "annoyed" category, eh?

[whoppers]

Originally Posted by DewDropInn

Going solely by the image: Sometime between 1851 which is when the Yosemite Valley was named by Lafayette Bunnell and 1955 which was when "Sahara Hare" was released. Rifle-dating would be dependent on knowing when they were produced without triggers. Small wonder Sam had to use it as a club.

Ha ha ha - very clever, DewDropInn - VERY clever!

[TRANSPONDER]

Originally Posted by Bideshi

That's "BC" for before Christ.

Before Christ's supposed date of birth...which can't be right, whether you go with Luke or Matthew.

So better to make it 'common Era' with the 'Nought BC' date as mythical as the event is commemorates as the arbitrary marker.