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Old 02-07-2014, 05:07 PM
 
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Please keep in mind that the same God that judges evil also loves us so much that he died on the cross himself in order to redeem man. He's not JUST into war and killing.
You mean the same God that knew beforehand that he would come back to life? Doesn't sound like much of a sacrifice.
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Old 02-07-2014, 05:07 PM
 
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I've not stuttered or stammered. I've been completely open and truthful. God does judge sin.

If God determined it was ok to do so, then it is. Because that 2 year old child was sinful. Because he/she would grow up to be a sinful human being. I'm not suggesting, nor have I ever suggested that we should go kill babies. Heck, we're not the side that advocates abortion and kills hundreds of thousands of babies a year.


Why? What system of morality tells you that? Why is your morality any better? How do you judge that?

The fact that the child would have grown up to be a child-sacrificing false-god worshiping, sinful human being and God decided it was needed is reason enough.
Maybe Hittler should have been killed when he was two, look at what he did as an adult...
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Old 02-07-2014, 05:09 PM
 
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Please keep in mind that the same God that judges evil also loves us so much that he died on the cross himself in order to redeem man. He's not JUST into war and killing.
Ahh, you're Oneness...
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Old 02-07-2014, 05:15 PM
 
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So Richard...if Israelites came here and invaded and killed a bunch of pagans, it wouldn't be murder? Every law enforcement agency in our country would disagree with you.

I also wouldn't go around telling too many people you believe that, let alone post it online. These days with the Patriot Act, they don't even really need a reason to lock people up. That seems like terrorist thinking to me. It's what the crazy Muslims believe who want to terrorize Americans. I honestly can't believe you went forward and said that...but that just proves what is so dangerous about religious indoctrination.
You know nothing about me...And obviously know nothing about Muslims nor constitutional rights...Freedom of speech anyone?...Thinking is not a crime...
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Old 02-07-2014, 05:18 PM
 
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Ahh, you're Oneness...
Nope. I am a Trinitarian. That's what the bible teaches.
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Old 02-07-2014, 05:23 PM
 
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Nope. I am a Trinitarian. That's what the bible teaches.
Believing that G-d Himself died on the Cross is Oneness thinking...On a side, who was Yeshua's G-d and Father?...
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Old 02-07-2014, 05:38 PM
 
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Believing that G-d Himself died on the Cross is Oneness thinking...
God himself did die on the cross. Jesus is God. He is the 2nd person of the Trinity--fully God, but also fully man.
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On a side, who was Yeshua's G-d and Father?...
The Bible calls him "Jesus". Actually more like "Yaysoos". Nowhere in the Bible do you see his name as "Yeshua".

But in any event, His Father is God, the Father -- the 1st person of the Trinity. No, the Father did not die on the cross, but God the Son did.
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Old 02-07-2014, 06:01 PM
 
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God himself did die on the cross. Jesus is God. He is the 2nd person of the Trinity--fully God, but also fully man.


The Bible calls him "Jesus". Actually more like "Yaysoos". Nowhere in the Bible do you see his name as "Yeshua".

But in any event, His Father is God, the Father -- the 1st person of the Trinity. No, the Father did not die on the cross, but God the Son did.
Can you prove this with Scripture?...
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Old 02-07-2014, 07:12 PM
 
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So Richard...if Israelites came here and invaded and killed a bunch of pagans, it wouldn't be murder? Every law enforcement agency in our country would disagree with you.

I also wouldn't go around telling too many people you believe that, let alone post it online. These days with the Patriot Act, they don't even really need a reason to lock people up. That seems like terrorist thinking to me. It's what the crazy Muslims believe who want to terrorize Americans. I honestly can't believe you went forward and said that...but that just proves what is so dangerous about religious indoctrination.
Let me ask you something...Would you or could you put a bullet into a 8 year old child's chest...why or why not?...
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Old 02-07-2014, 07:34 PM
 
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Let me ask you something...Would you or could you put a bullet into a 8 year old child's chest...why or why not?...
Let me ask you. If your God told you to kill the 2 yr. old child next door because he would eventually grow to be the anti-Christ, would you do so? Same question for Vizio.
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