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Some hold that God didn't make the sun and moon in the beginning when God made the rest of the Universe, but interpret the scriptures of Genesis 1:16 as indicating that they where made on the fourth day.
While I do not subscribe to that prophesy of scripture, apparently science has verified that belief is not only possible but in fact that the sun and moon were created at a later time than the beginning of the universe.
The anti-science crowd is really making me laugh at their ludicrous objections to it in this thread.
||0OoO0||, Maybe fetuses might be fish, since in the early stages they have gills that they don't need (since they always have the umbilical cord). Just kidding, fetuses aren't fish although they do demonstrate evolution. Humans, however, are specifically defined as homosapiens sapiens, not a fish but an ape. Why? because we have all the characteristics that define an ape. Not many of the ones that define a fish. Is a lion a feline? Is a tiger a feline? then chimps are apes and humans are apes. Like the other thread which supported evolution demonstrated: humans have more DNA in common with apes than felines do with each other.
deadwood, random events might be the reason that all of the infinite "Powers" randomly and purposelessly always existed and randomly should be bowed down to for random trivial reasons.
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In [the] beginning God created the heavens and the earth. 2 Now the earth was formless and empty, darkness was over the surface of the deep, and the Spirit of God was hovering over the waters.
3 And God said, “Let there be light,” and there was light. 4 God saw that the light was good, and he separated the light from the darkness. 5 God called the light “day,” and the darkness he called “night.” And there was evening, and there was morning—the first day.
6 And God said, “Let there be a vault between the waters to separate water from water.” 7 So God made the vault and separated the water under the vault from the water above it. And it was so. 8 God called the vault “sky.” And there was evening, and there was morning—the second day.
9 And God said, “Let the water under the sky be gathered to one place, and let dry ground appear.” And it was so. 10 God called the dry ground “land,” and the gathered waters he called “seas.” And God saw that it was good.
11 Then God said, “Let the land produce vegetation: seed-bearing plants and trees on the land that bear fruit with seed in it, according to their various kinds.” And it was so. 12 The land produced vegetation: plants bearing seed according to their kinds and trees bearing fruit with seed in it according to their kinds. And God saw that it was good. 13 And there was evening, and there was morning—the third day.
14 And God said, “Let there be lights in the vault of the sky to separate the day from the night, and let them serve as signs to mark sacred times, and days and years, 15 and let them be lights in the vault of the sky to give light on the earth.” And it was so. 16 God made two great lights—the greater light to govern the day and the lesser light to govern the night. He also made the stars. 17 God set them in the vault of the sky to give light on the earth, 18 to govern the day and the night, and to separate light from darkness. And God saw that it was good. 19 And there was evening, and there was morning—the fourth day.
As we can see, the day and night somehow were created by the supposed god of the Jews before the sun and stars. There might have been some rearranging because this supposed Creator first created light and separated it from darkness, making day and night. Then after day and night somehow exist without the Sun, he creates the Sun which is the actual marker of day. It's a cultural creation story like anyone else's. Whether any of the above applies to biological evolution is really up to the superstitious imagination.
The sun and moon were of course made after the rest of the universe. The problem with Genesis is that it appears to claim that they were made after most of life appeared on earth.
Our Islamic poster with unrememberable name is confused about what evolution has to say about fish and humans.
When posters understand what what they are talking about, there may be some point in them posting. This thread is a dead crocoduck before it was started.
From a naked eye, the full moon and the sun look about the same size; however the sun is about 400 times bigger than the moon BUT the sun is also 400 times away from the earth than the moon is THUS strinking a good balance between the formation of day and night due to earth's axial and orbital rotation among the moving solar system.
And all this setup happened .......................... you know, just "randomly".
There is evidence that we have been lucky (two major extinctions to give us a chance) and also the distance of the moon has changed so it is (arguably) just luck that it is, just about now, the same apparent size as the sun. You are just looking at lucky coincidences and trying to argue that they Mean Something. And so what? Apart from giving a nice view of the corona at eclipses, what's the point?
In any case, even if one conceded that it was some indication of a planning mind behind evolution (in the broadest sense) how does that knock belief in evolution? There could always have been a god involved in it, but that doesn't mean it didn't happen.
As I say, the confusion is on your side.
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