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Okay, picture the typical fundamentalist or even the average Christian's view of Heaven/Hell.
You live your entire life according to some book's standard, and when you die supposedly you go here or there, based on what seems to be largely arbitrary standards. Don't steal, sounds fine until you're hungry. No adultery, sounds fine until you're that other guy all your life. Murder is the only hard and fast one, because killing due to war or something is usually not murder (murder is defined as involving malicious intent, as in desire to inflict pain/suffering). Anyway, the point of this is that it's a pie in the sky wait until you die idea.
But as I say, what if we're thinking about this wrong.
Let's say for a minute this guy is even half-right, and when you goto sleep you overlap with Hell/Heaven. Now, what if the same is true for the world we live in?
Have you ever heard someone in love or extreme happiness talk about how it feels like they're in Heaven? Or someone in emotional pain (or waiting in line at the DMV) refer to themselves in Hell? That's because they are.
Yeah, well, you can "what if" until the cows come home but it is still speculation and cherry picking the result based on what you want / wish / makes you feel good.
What if we just need to not make stuff up and stick with what we know for sure? Even if that is less in some ways than some of us wish it were?
Yeah, well, you can "what if" until the cows come home but it is still speculation and cherry picking the result based on what you want / wish / makes you feel good.
What if we just need to not make stuff up and stick with what we know for sure? Even if that is less in some ways than some of us wish it were?
Aren't those the kind of things people have said to cutting edge thinkers throughout history? Stop dreaming and stick with what you know for sure? Seems like the guy in the video is suggesting people do some experimenting of their own. He apparently has, and whether or not his conclusions are valid, at least he's been willing to not just have the attitude that it's impossible to know anything for sure beyond a certain point, so why bother trying.
Okay, picture the typical fundamentalist or even the average Christian's view of Heaven/Hell.
You live your entire life according to some book's standard, and when you die supposedly you go here or there, based on what seems to be largely arbitrary standards. Don't steal, sounds fine until you're hungry. No adultery, sounds fine until you're that other guy all your life. Murder is the only hard and fast one, because killing due to war or something is usually not murder (murder is defined as involving malicious intent, as in desire to inflict pain/suffering). Anyway, the point of this is that it's a pie in the sky wait until you die idea.
But as I say, what if we're thinking about this wrong.
Let's say for a minute this guy is even half-right, and when you goto sleep you overlap with Hell/Heaven. Now, what if the same is true for the world we live in?
Have you ever heard someone in love or extreme happiness talk about how it feels like they're in Heaven? Or someone in emotional pain (or waiting in line at the DMV) refer to themselves in Hell? That's because they are.
And lets do the opposite.
You lived all your life denying the existence of some divine book, and you die only to find out that your were thinking wrong?
Or let's say that GOD didn't want to inspire a book but wanted humans to sort it out individually. And the Bible is Satan's book - a decoy to keep people from truly discovering GOD's way. Anyone who follows the Bible will never go to heaven.
I watched the first couple of minutes and got the idea. I know what astral projection is but I don't believe a person can do it voluntarily.
What it describes though in the beginning is exactly what people have said happens to them in NDE's. They rise up out of their bodies, notice a silver cord attached to their spirit body and their physical body. When that cord detaches they are fully dead and part of the spirit world now. But while it is still attached they remain viable, in other words able to return to their bodies and be revived.
And lets do the opposite.
You lived all your life denying the existence of some divine book, and you die only to find out that your were thinking wrong?
Or you found out that you'd been believing in the wrong divine book.
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And lets do the opposite.
You lived all your life denying the existence of some divine book, and you die only to find out that your were thinking wrong?
We know. Pascal's Wager.
First of all, there must be proof that your god is the one and only. If it was so easy, everyone would be the same religion. #fail
What if the god of the Abrahamic religions wanted everyone to worship him in the muslim way, and not the christian way? Pascal's Wager then falls apart, as it presumes christianity.
Absolutely. while one might try to evade the problem by arguing that a Christian God might not be pissed if you joined the wromng denomination, if it turns out to be Allah, (as our pal above believes) all the Christians are doomed.
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