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Old 08-07-2014, 09:14 AM
 
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Good to hear pastor. Modern science is a wonderful thing, and has uncovered a lot of the mysteries of the universe. Like the age of it.
That's debatable. The numbers are always changing. Since no one was around when it was created, no one really knows. And science today makes a lot of assumptions in observing the evidence.
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Old 08-07-2014, 09:23 AM
 
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That's debatable. The numbers are always changing. Since no one was around when it was created, no one really knows. And science today makes a lot of assumptions in observing the evidence.
That is an amazingly uninformed and uneducated opinion. Multiple scientific disciplines validate the age of the earth, solar system and universe. Such pretense to human ignorance about it is completely bogus.
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Old 08-07-2014, 09:46 AM
 
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That is an amazingly uninformed and uneducated opinion. Multiple scientific disciplines validate the age of the earth, solar system and universe. Such pretense to human ignorance about it is completely bogus.
And many scientific minds once thought the world was flat. Others thought the atom was the smallest possible thing. Others thought the earth was the center of the universe.
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Old 08-07-2014, 09:53 AM
 
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That is an amazingly uninformed and uneducated opinion. Multiple scientific disciplines validate the age of the earth, solar system and universe. Such pretense to human ignorance about it is completely bogus.
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And many scientific minds once thought the world was flat. Others thought the atom was the smallest possible thing. Others thought the earth was the center of the universe.
And your opinions follow in that religious mold made infamous by the RCC . . . resistant to actual advances in scientific knowledge across multiple disciplines with validations so routine there was NO debate or dispute whatsoever. You are on the wrong side of this absurd denialism in defense of religious myths and fables.
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Old 08-07-2014, 09:55 AM
 
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And your opinions follow in that religious mold made infamous by the RCC . . . resistant to actual advances in scientific knowledge across multiple disciplines with validations so routine there was NO debate or dispute whatsoever. You are on the wrong side of this absurd denialism in defense of religious myths and fables.
I'm just questioning things. It's ok to question, Doc. Don't be so scared of asking questions.
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Old 08-07-2014, 10:11 AM
 
Location: In a little house on the prairie - literally
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That's debatable. The numbers are always changing. Since no one was around when it was created, no one really knows. And science today makes a lot of assumptions in observing the evidence.
Exactly.

Science IS about observing the evidence, and as new evidence becomes available, the theories are continual being tested. That is the only way it advances and continually gets better.
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Old 08-07-2014, 11:28 AM
 
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That's debatable. The numbers are always changing. Since no one was around when it was created, no one really knows. And science today makes a lot of assumptions in observing the evidence.
Hello Paator Vizio.

Science makes a lot of assumptions in ALL fields, not just cosmology and evolutionary science. Yet you have no problem accepting any of it when it doesn't inconvenience your god-concept.

No one has actually seen an electron...do you believe in those?

Thanks.
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Old 08-07-2014, 12:37 PM
 
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Hello Paator Vizio.

Science makes a lot of assumptions in ALL fields, not just cosmology and evolutionary science. Yet you have no problem accepting any of it when it doesn't inconvenience your god-concept.

No one has actually seen an electron...do you believe in those?

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Of course I do. Hard science confirms electrons. But hard science does not confirm evolution and abiogenesis. They're no more "proven" than creationism.
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Old 08-07-2014, 12:59 PM
 
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Of course I do. Hard science confirms electrons. But hard science does not confirm evolution and abiogenesis. They're no more "proven" than creationism.
The same scientific process that confirmed electrons has confirmed evolution.

The process does not change. Science just follows the evidence.
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Old 08-07-2014, 03:38 PM
 
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The same scientific process that confirmed electrons has confirmed evolution.
No, it hasn't. It's provided some evidence that people have theorized points to evolution.
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The process does not change. Science just follows the evidence.
The evidence doesn't speak. Scientists do.
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