Christian morality: an atheist's point of view (abortion, suicide, euthanasia)
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Originally Posted by jeffbase40
I clarified my point so drop the brow beating. It's not my fault that I have to be laser precise just so you don't have wiggle room.
So what? That doesn't change the fact that pornography is harmful particular when accessed by a very young child. Or do you think it's cool that they can view graphic images easily? Another thing unheard of in previous generations. Teachers having sex with students. Happens all the time now. Why is that? Do you really think most married women are perfectly fine with their husbands viewing pornography?
Teachers and students indulging in the carnal sports goes back before Christ was a pup. Nothing new there.
I remember back when I was 7 or 8 being over at a friend's house, and him showing us his dad's Playboy collection. If you think any of us were scarred by that, your mistaken. We ogled, oogled and ahhed and wondered how long it would be before we could see that in real life. That pile of Playboy books was in the parents bedroom, so I am pretty sure in retrospect that the wife knew.
Teachers and students indulging in the carnal sports goes back before Christ was a pup. Nothing new there.
I remember back when I was 7 or 8 being over at a friend's house, and him showing us his dad's Playboy collection. If you think any of us were scarred by that, your mistaken. We ogled, oogled and ahhed and wondered how long it would be before we could see that in real life. That pile of Playboy books was in the parents bedroom, so I am pretty sure in retrospect that the wife knew.
How long ago was that? Before Kennedy got shot.
OK....you had to go to a friend's house and look at his dad's collection of magazines. You didn't have them available at your fingertips at any moment's notice. You also didn't have HBO or Showtime beamed into your house on Satellite, or on Cable TV. We didn't hear of 24 year old female teachers and their 12 year old lovers. Maybe we were just naive.
You also didn't have HBO or Showtime beamed into your house on Satellite, or on Cable TV.
Here's the VERY easy solution: don't have HBO or Showtime. Are those channels beamed into your home? Have a problem with them? Take responsibility on your end and cancel them.
Here's the VERY easy solution: don't have HBO or Showtime. Are those channels beamed into your home? Have a problem with them? Take responsibility on your end and cancel them.
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OK....you had to go to a friend's house and look at his dad's collection of magazines. You didn't have them available at your fingertips at any moment's notice. You also didn't have HBO or Showtime beamed into your house on Satellite, or on Cable TV. We didn't hear of 24 year old female teachers and their 12 year old lovers. Maybe we were just naive.
Yet I remember a girl in grade seven who was pregnant. What does that put her at, 12-13?
What difference does it make how the soft porn or hard porn gets into the house? Is it not the parents responsibility to ensure that the kids are not watching it? That the 'screen' time in front of the computer occurs in the same room as the parents? What happened to the idea of the parents being responsible, rather than worrying about the possibility that younger kids, like me at the time, see inappropriate scenes?
...snip... What happened to the idea of the parents being responsible, rather than worrying about the possibility that younger kids, like me at the time, see inappropriate scenes?
I just don't see the issue.
But cupper, you turned into an (insert gasp) Atheist!
Ergo: porn = irredeemable rotification* of all semblances of morality.
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But cupper, you turned into an (insert gasp) Atheist!
Ergo: porn = irredeemable rotification* of all semblances of morality.
*It's a word now.
I didn't have to turn into an atheist.
Never was baptized, never went to church, never had a bible in the house. Had to go to Catholic school though (in Canada both Protestant or secular schools and Catholic schools are public by constitution) because there was no Protestant schools in my area we moved to. For 7 years.
Poor priest I had a discussion with in grade 12 that logic dictates that either Jesus was a bastard or Mary committed adultery lasted about 45 minutes and ended with the words, "You just have to have faith". Which I didn't and don't.
Then my second marriage I married a relapsed SDA who went back to the religion of Ellen White after a year. That was a trip and a half! She was a Princess Di look alike, and yes, very good in the bed department, but man, what a loonie tune she turned out to be. We amicably split after a further year, she went on to perform exorcism on mental homeless to drive the devil out of them (called it Christian Counselling), and I went my way.
Nice dodge of the vast majority of my post by replying to only the tiniest snippets of it.
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Originally Posted by jeffbase40
I clarified my point so drop the brow beating.
Not really. You dodged admitting a false point by making an entirely different point. Changing a point entirely is not a clarification, it is a modification.
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Originally Posted by jeffbase40
It's not my fault that I have to be laser precise just so you don't have wiggle room.
You were laser precise. And you were wrong. You claimed X did not exist in time period Y, and the fact is X did exist in time period Y. You were simply wrong. Build a bridge. Get over it.
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Originally Posted by jeffbase40
So what?
So.... as I said.... your point is moot. You simply declared that pornography CAN be addictive. So can many things. The "So what" applies to you, not me. You might as well have said "Many apples are green" for all the sense you are making.
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Originally Posted by jeffbase40
That doesn't change the fact that pornography is harmful
You have not established that pornography IS harmful. You have simply asserted that it is. I see nothing wrong with pornography at all. It is not harmful just because YOU decree it to be so.
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Originally Posted by jeffbase40
particular when accessed by a very young child.
Or do you think it's cool that they can view graphic images easily?[/quote]
Turpentine is harmful if accessed by a child too. The real point is that we should be caring for our children and mediating what they do, and do not, have access to. If children have unfettered access to pornography or turpentine then this is a failure in parenting, not a failure of pornography or turpentine.
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Originally Posted by jeffbase40
Teachers having sex with students. Happens all the time now.
Are you suggessting it happens more now than 200 years ago? Have you figures of evidence for this assertion? At all?
Or are you just making up things? Again? As per usual with you?
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