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Old 09-15-2014, 08:31 PM
 
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Originally Posted by cupper3 View Post
Well you know what they say, if it walks like a duck, if it talks like a duck............
Some people have a habit of looking without seeing, and listening without hearing.
I challenge you...Show me where you've ever seen anything religious from me...beyond acknowledging its great power and influence and various assessments of it.

 
Old 09-15-2014, 08:32 PM
 
Location: Ontario, Canada
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Of course, I'm reading blowhole spew about determinations of me being "sick" for having the opinion and suppositions I stated.
But you STILL have not given me your objective basis for your determination that I am "one sick puppy". You simply stated you thought I was...then mikebnllnb chimed in...and then you again. Funny though...you have both avoided proffering an answer to my question.
So, AGAIN...What is the objective basis for the determination that I am "a sick puppy" based upon what I posted? Ya got an answer? You gonna back your statements, or is all you two have are your childish & ignorant insults?
I don't need an "objective basis" to assess when someone is being an abhorrent moron.

All I need is common sense, ethics, and the ability to read prose, however poorly and crudely constructed.
 
Old 09-15-2014, 08:59 PM
 
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You have managed to outdo yourself with this....... supposition.
Thanx.
But you'd be surprised...I'm probably more "on the money" than you think. People don't typically mime sex acts they are not into. Especially adolescents in front of their friends and on social media. And at that age they are obsessed with sex.
It was a response to those that were going off about that he would be a "sodomy rape" victim if he was sent to detention. I was pointing out that you can't rape the willing.

If I was prosecuted for mimicking a sex act with a statue of Mary, and they sent me to a jail full of young horny girls...you wouldn't have to worry about me suffering and being traumatized from them "forcing" themselves on me.
 
Old 09-15-2014, 09:20 PM
 
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Thanx.
That wasn't a compliment.
 
Old 09-15-2014, 09:27 PM
 
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That wasn't a compliment.

I didn't think it was. But it confirmed that I had accomplished my goal. I thanked you for the validation.
NOW...do you have a rebuttal beyond backhanded insults?
I stated my opinion...this is a debate forum. Do you have anything to add except some weak ad hom?
 
Old 09-15-2014, 09:45 PM
 
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NOW...do you have a rebuttal
To your..... suppositions? Anything I'd say would be a comment, not a rebuttal. It would also drag this thread into the weeds, get me a lengthy time-out and make the mods work very hard. (Since being a mod is a volunteer position I try my best to not make a difficult task any harder than it needs to be.)
 
Old 09-15-2014, 10:15 PM
 
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To your..... suppositions? Anything I'd say would be a comment, not a rebuttal. It would also drag this thread into the weeds, get me a lengthy time-out and make the mods work very hard. (Since being a mod is a volunteer position I try my best to not make a difficult task any harder than it needs to be.)
Noted.
 
Old 09-15-2014, 10:29 PM
 
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Forced sex is rape, regardless of the gender(s) and the particular sex act. I'd say the majority of people prefer to have sex with someone they know. Although people do choose to have sex with stranger and pay for sex, there is usually a level of privacy and anonymity involved that is not available to those who are incarcerated.

Whether or not one considers the jokes about oral copulation and sodomy in poor taste, the fact remains that they are a form of rape in the prison population. They serve to dehumanize, which only makes it harder for rehabilitation to occur. I don't mind discussing these issues, but could do without the jokes when we are discussing a 14-year-old child.

We know nothing of his preferences with respect to his sexuality, which others have pointed out. There are so many possibilities for why he did what he did that have nothing to do with his own preferences. I don't think it's any of our business to speculate on them.

Yes, he did something stupid. He's not the first and won't be the last. I don't think he will serve any time, which is appropriate. I certainly hope that's the case.
 
Old 09-16-2014, 12:00 AM
 
Location: In a little house on the prairie - literally
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Forced sex is rape, regardless of the gender(s) and the particular sex act. I'd say the majority of people prefer to have sex with someone they know. Although people do choose to have sex with stranger and pay for sex, there is usually a level of privacy and anonymity involved that is not available to those who are incarcerated.

Whether or not one considers the jokes about oral copulation and sodomy in poor taste, the fact remains that they are a form of rape in the prison population. They serve to dehumanize, which only makes it harder for rehabilitation to occur. I don't mind discussing these issues, but could do without the jokes when we are discussing a 14-year-old child.

We know nothing of his preferences with respect to his sexuality, which others have pointed out. There are so many possibilities for why he did what he did that have nothing to do with his own preferences. I don't think it's any of our business to speculate on them.

Yes, he did something stupid. He's not the first and won't be the last. I don't think he will serve any time, which is appropriate. I certainly hope that's the case.



He should not even be prosecuted.

We have an overzealous fundy DA who is pursuing this. What a waste of money!
 
Old 09-16-2014, 12:47 AM
 
Location: California
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He should not even be prosecuted.

We have an overzealous fundy DA who is pursuing this. What a waste of money!
The DA is really a mess isn't he? Having sex with a women (not his wife) in his courthouse office isn't a crime, but posing with chuck of concrete is. Not deflection at all...nope.
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