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Old 10-18-2014, 10:23 AM
 
Location: The land where cats rule
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All people worship something, atheists included.
It would appear you are confused about what it means to be an Atheist. Not believing in a god or gods is what it is about. Worshiping has nothing to do with it.

I worship freedom from the restrictions of a set religion. To you, does that mean that I worship this god of yours?
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Old 10-18-2014, 10:29 AM
 
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Odd that people would insist on pestering you with this, unless you are the proverbial evangelical atheist. The only atheists I spar with are the ones who are trying to force others to agree with them that there is no God. As long as they don't go there - I am happy to leave them be.
How do you feel about all the theists that try to force their notion of god down the atheists throat?

Is that alright, or is there a double standard?
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Old 10-18-2014, 10:33 AM
 
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Exactly. You can be an "atheist" in philosophical principle, but you nonetheless have a worldview.
Which does not mean that you have a religious point of view or worldview.
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Old 10-20-2014, 01:56 AM
 
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that makes sense. but love thy neighbor looks a lot like hate thy neighbor all too often.
Yeah the "golden rule" in isolation can be warped into just about anything. I can use the "Do unto others as you would like them to do unto you" meme to justify murdering homosexuals if I wished to.

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Exactly. You can be an "atheist" in philosophical principle, but you nonetheless have a worldview.
I have a world view. Atheism is not it. What people call "atheism" is a consequence of my world view. It is not itself my world view.
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Old 10-20-2014, 07:15 AM
 
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All people worship something, atheists included.
What is worship? How do you do it, what is involved in it? What might an atheist worship?


I ask because I am familiar with worship from my days as a Christian. I don't do or experience anything similar as an atheist, but I am curious to see if you have a definition of worship that I have never considered.
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Old 10-20-2014, 11:50 AM
 
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This thread's premise is ridiculous. By definition, atheists do not believe in god. It may upset you believers, but there really are a lot of people (whose numbers are growing) that genuinely have no belief in any deity whatsoever.
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Old 10-20-2014, 04:34 PM
 
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This thread's premise is ridiculous. By definition, atheists do not believe in god. It may upset you believers, but there really are a lot of people (whose numbers are growing) that genuinely have no belief in any deity whatsoever.
Let me ask you this do you believe that something can come from nothing? The reality is nothing cannot produce something. There had to be something to create it, so it proves that a god exists already. The premise of atheism is destroyed just by this little fact
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Old 10-20-2014, 04:45 PM
 
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Let me ask you this do you believe that something can come from nothing? The reality is nothing cannot produce something. There had to be something to create it, so it proves that a god exists already. The premise of atheism is destroyed just by this little fact
If that is true, where did your god come from?


ETA: Here we go again....
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Old 10-20-2014, 05:12 PM
 
Location: California side of the Sierras
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Let me ask you this do you believe that something can come from nothing? The reality is nothing cannot produce something. There had to be something to create it, so it proves that a god exists already. The premise of atheism is destroyed just by this little fact
If your statement is true, then a god can only exist if something else created it.
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Old 10-20-2014, 05:16 PM
 
Location: Ontario, Canada
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If your statement is true, then a god can only exist if something else created it.
I think the current apologetic is that god makes the rules, so he also gets to be the exception to them.

I learned that one from Vizio.

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