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In other words, you only agree with a God who hates the same people you do.
How old does the buzz word "hate" get to everyone else? I am so sick of trying to be guilted into saying that homosexual acts are not immoral because they are today, yesterday and tomorrow.
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Originally Posted by Vizio
Might as well ask "What if Jesus returned and said adultery was ok?"
He has already spoken. It's sinful. God doesn't change. What was immoral and sinful 2000 years ago is sinful today.
I know, so basic. I guess I would doubt the dude was Jesus.
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Originally Posted by denverian
What if he said, "Hey, there are too many of you humans on the planet. Things are out of control! You can't all keep producing more humans, so some of you humans are to fall in love with and marry the same sex, and adopt kids in need of a family. This is actually a way to prolong the human existence!"
Prolonging human existence? Really? In the world today. I think the answer if there must be one in this case would be infertility. I do expect that to increase as it seems to work with nature unlike what is being described.
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That's the EXACT same bigotry "Christians" used to fight interracial marriage legalization
Apples and oranges.
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Originally Posted by Vizio
Not really. People are born with a skin color.
And, it was never considered a sin to be a person of color. I know nothing in the Bible that says anything other than a marriage is between one man and one woman. It didn't mention color at least I never seen anything.
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Jesus Christ would never say Gay marriage or homosexuality was OK with Him.
That kind of message would only come from ...
The Father Of All Lies ... The Deceiver ... Satan The Devil ! ! !
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I second that. No one following Biblical Law is going to say that homosexual acts are moral. Plus, since this isn't in the Christianity forum and not all people that are of a religious faith that believe homosexual acts are immoral are even Christiansl, I don't think most would listen anyway. Biblical Law is unchanging despite the butcher jobs that some churches, in an effort to get butts in the seats, have done to the supposed word of God. I listened to a youtube of some nutjob the other day and was blown away by the twisting of The Word.
Someone shows up and tells me that he is Jesus and homosexuality is moral and not against Biblical law, I will call 911. This will not be the first person that told me they were Jesus.
How old does the buzz word "hate" get to everyone else? I am so sick of trying to be guilted into saying that homosexual acts are not immoral because they are today, yesterday and tomorrow.
I know, so basic. I guess I would doubt the dude was Jesus.
Prolonging human existence? Really? In the world today. I think the answer if there must be one in this case would be infertility. I do expect that to increase as it seems to work with nature unlike what is being described.
Apples and oranges.
And, it was never considered a sin to be a person of color. I know nothing in the Bible that says anything other than a marriage is between one man and one woman. It didn't mention color at least I never seen anything.
I second that. No one following Biblical Law is going to say that homosexual acts are moral. Plus, since this isn't in the Christianity forum and not all people that are of a religious faith that believe homosexual acts are immoral are even Christiansl, I don't think most would listen anyway. Biblical Law is unchanging despite the butcher jobs that some churches, in an effort to get butts in the seats, have done to the supposed word of God. I listened to a youtube of some nutjob the other day and was blown away by the twisting of The Word.
Someone shows up and tells me that he is Jesus and homosexuality is moral and not against Biblical law, I will call 911. This will not be the first person that told me they were Jesus.
It's May, so things could change, but the above is my current nominee for this year's Post With The Most Wrong-Headed Ideas.
if jesus came back and said men could marry men and GOD would be ok with it i would marry him in a minute .. it would be great being GODS son in law ...
God's morality is not derived by decree, but flows naturally from His perfect nature. All sin follows this constant. If God arbitrarily decided that a specific sin was now moral, He would be acting against His nature and would cease to be God.
This is true, but the conclusion you draw is not. The whole point about the basis for the New Covenant in the New Commandment is that it is concern for the well-being of everyone in any situation which determines the right course. It is NOT about rules derived in any cultural situation in the past, but what the purpose for those rules and whether that purpose applies to the current situation. Paul knew that, and that is why he said that to him ALL things are "lawful," or nothing has power over him by being anyone's "law," but the determining factor is whether any one thing is "beneficial" (another way of saying correct for the well-being of a person under consideration. Jesuis does not have to come back to say that anything is ok, He left a principle for us to apply. Just do it.
I really hope all the Christians sitting behind their keyboards aren't wearing blended fibers, eating shellfish and doing any of the other ridiculous rules in the old testament. It's frustrating when some Christians pick and chose the parts of the Bible they want to follow.
I've been thinking about it....Everyone just stays on the 5 and zips right through Stockton. What if that's where Jesus goes to tell us, "Gay marriage is OK!" The millions of Americans who are in favor of marriage equality can just stay in the Diamond Lane. But all the fundamentalists would be excited to learn Jesus is in Stockton.
CalTrans could put up big signs saying "Jesus Ahead". "This Exit". "Shuttle Bus Parking". Jesus can tell them...and then they can all concentrate on minding their own business instead of interfering with the lives of people they don't even know.
And this thread is the reason the Christ will never come.
Nowhere in the Gospels, which is as close to the word of Christ as we can get, does the Christ discuss homosexuality. The Epistles of James and Peter, who were with the Christ as well, do not discuss homosexuality. The only part that does discuss homosexuality is Paul but Paul was Saul (A Jewish Convert still attached to Judaism) and never knew the Christ as indicated in the Acts of the Apostles.
If the Christ ever does come back I hope he comes back with an army of Angels; the first thing Jews, Muslims and many Christians would do is want to persecute him again because he is different then they suppose and may teach something different then they suppose. I wouldn't want the Christ to get hurt again and for no point really because you can't evolve people into getting into Heaven; they have to evolve on their own.
If Jesus, the Son of God came down to Earth and said that homosexual acts were, in fact, moral then I would have serious issues with a hypocritical God. It wouldn't make any sense if God's nature is still constant to betray that. It would be similar to Jesus coming to Earth to tell me that squares are round.
That's right. You tell him. Who does he think he is, deciding what is and is not a sin ? God, or something?
This is why if Christ really was the son of god, it would be pointless for him to come back. Nobody who believes in him would believe that he was really Christ, because they wouldn't agree with anything he said. This time, he'd be crucified by the Christians. I'd give him a life expectancy of about a week - two weeks tops.
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