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You are entitled to your opinion, sure...but how do you know that?
You keep asking how people "know" things . . . as if YOU have some magic secret squirrel way of "knowing" things from your magical Bible. I find it hard to believe a grown man could possibly believe such magical nonsense. What YOU "know" is just opinion too, Vizio.
Every tale found in the Bible is a tale from some older civilization. And remember, every old civilization has a story of dragons and most rational people don't believe in them either.
Every tale found in the Bible is a tale from some older civilization. And remember, every old civilization has a story of dragons and most rational people don't believe in them either.
Sometimes we discover the old myths had some level of truth.
Well, that's where we have a problem, because the same sort of material held up as the sort of knowledge that men could not have known at the time is found in the Bible .
what are the books that are in the Bible?
as far as I know the bible contains the book of Moses , the book of David and the book of Jesus
and they are all messengers from Allah , so if it contains miracles knowledge it would be from Allah but still these books
have been changed be men and that cancelled them to be the word of Allah , and even if they are not the changed
the Quran and the final messenger Mahammad (peace and blessing of Allah be upon him) are the one that should be followed
The Prophet Muhammad (peace and blessing of Allah be upon him) said,
"I have been given five things which were not given to any one else before me.
1. Allah made me victorious by awe, (by His frightening my enemies) for a distance of one month's journey.
2. The earth has been made for me (and for my followers) a place for praying
and a thing to perform Tayammum, therefore anyone of my followers can pray wherever the time of a prayer is due.
3. The booty has been made Halal (lawful) for me yet it was not lawful for anyone else before me.
4. I have been given the right of intercession (on the Day of Resurrection). 5. Every Prophet used to be sent to his nation only but I have been sent to all mankind.
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and, as we have seen, the claims for that kind of thing in the Quran
doesn't seem to stand up. We already looked at that 'low place' battle
claim,
I would like to remind you about that verse of low place that it also contain another miracle which is
it mentioned that the roman win within 3 to 9 years and that is recorded in the history.
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The claim that there is guidance about al aspects of life doesn't either. That's
just another Holy Book telling us how it thinks we ought to live.
first it is not easy to establish rules for all aspects of life such as Marriage, Inheritance, Criminality , Property and every subject
and we and this planet belong to Allah so it logically to compliance to his rules
as far as I know the bible contains the book of Moses , the book of David and the book of Jesus
and they are all messengers from Allah , so if it contains miracles knowledge it would be from Allah but still these books
have been changed be men and that cancelled them to be the word of Allah , and even if they are not the changed
the Quran and the final messenger Mahammad (peace and blessing of Allah be upon him) are the one that should be followed
The Prophet Muhammad (peace and blessing of Allah be upon him) said,
"I have been given five things which were not given to any one else before me.
1. Allah made me victorious by awe, (by His frightening my enemies) for a distance of one month's journey.
2. The earth has been made for me (and for my followers) a place for praying
and a thing to perform Tayammum, therefore anyone of my followers can pray wherever the time of a prayer is due.
3. The booty has been made Halal (lawful) for me yet it was not lawful for anyone else before me.
4. I have been given the right of intercession (on the Day of Resurrection). 5. Every Prophet used to be sent to his nation only but I have been sent to all mankind.
I would like to remind you about that verse of low place that it also contain another miracle which is
it mentioned that the roman win within 3 to 9 years and that is recorded in the history.
first it is not easy to establish rules for all aspects of life such as Marriage, Inheritance, Criminality , Property and every subject
and we and this planet belong to Allah so it logically to compliance to his rules
None of that is addressing the post I made about evidence divine knowledge in the Quran other than the 'Low place' battle. And that was looked at in a previous thread and is more like recording the history of the time than some kind of foreknowledge.
It is a sight earlier to issue rules and restrictions about every aspect of human life than to find and prove things that were not know or lost. That is why science has a good track record in substantiated fact and Holy books don't.
So, to get back to the Topic, I'll go with the science because just commenting on the Creation aspect .. the Quran and genesis are apparently wrong, and all the cut and paste texts stating that this or that author of the script is unquestionably right and we must believe everything written - just doesn't work for me and -as I said - I wonder what these people expect when they make plonking claims: 'Everything was made in 6 days' or indeed try to fiddle the Creation account by turning days into a billion or so years so as to match it to the science story and then try to claim that it proves the Bible true - or the Quran.
That wouldn't count for anything even if it worked - which it doesn't, because of course the length of the geological ages is not regular, so you can't make 'days' of them.
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You keep asking how people "know" things . . . as if YOU have some magic secret squirrel way of "knowing" things from your magical Bible. I find it hard to believe a grown man could possibly believe such magical nonsense. What YOU "know" is just opinion too, Vizio.
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What YOU "know" is just opinion too, Vizio.
