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Old 06-18-2015, 01:59 AM
 
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I would certainly classify #1 as indoctrination.

I don't know what you are talking about with respect to #2

A person can certainly make sound moral judgments and rational decisions without being indoctrinated by either 1 or 2.
Well that's the point. You aren't aware of it, or more cogently, you lack the toolset of self-assessment to recognize it exists in the first place.

Let's take your (rather embarrassing, yet entertaining) evolution-creation polemic a few days ago. In that, you use a posteriori empirical data to falsify a priori orthodox Christian doctrine, when any sophomore in epistemology would have been able to point out such arguments are patently invalid.

This kind of reasoning is a hallmark of those who hold to these outdated knowledge theories.
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Old 06-18-2015, 02:15 AM
 
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Well that's the point. You aren't aware of it, or more cogently, you lack the toolset of self-assessment to recognize it exists in the first place.

Let's take your (rather embarrassing, yet entertaining) evolution-creation polemic a few days ago. In that, you use a posteriori empirical data to falsify a priori orthodox Christian doctrine, when any sophomore in epistemology would have been able to point out such arguments are patently invalid.

This kind of reasoning is a hallmark of those who hold to these outdated knowledge theories.
LOL that is NOT what I meant when I said I don't know what you are talking about with respect to #2

What point are you trying to make with it is what I meant.

You are being nonsensical here when trying to connect it to the Theory of Evolution and how it debunks the Creation Myth.

In fact there really is no rival between Creationism and Evolution because one is a religious indoctrinated belief and the other is not.

Any sophomore in epistemology would at least know this much.
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Old 06-18-2015, 02:26 AM
 
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LOL that is NOT what I meant when I said I don't know what you are talking about with respect to #2

What point are you trying to make with it is what I meant.

You are being nonsensical here when trying to connect it to the Theory of Evolution and how it debunks the Creation Myth.

In fact there really is no rival between Creationism and Evolution because one is a religious indoctrinated belief and the other is not.

Any sophomore in epistemology would at least know this much.
After what happened to you last time, please don't drag this into another creation-evolution polemic, if you value your dignity. It's not relevant to the point.

I meant two things that are relevant to your comment:

- The very fact that you weren't aware of point 2, validates point 2. Remember I said that it is inseminated covertly?
- Those who are inseminated with these beliefs have trouble distinguishing between a priori and a posteriori knowledge in the same way you do.
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Old 06-18-2015, 02:36 AM
 
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After what happened to you last time, please don't drag this into another creation-evolution...
Interesting since you were the person who brought it up FIRST.

Need a refresher?
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Let's take your (rather embarrassing, yet entertaining) evolution-creation polemic a few days ago.
Your game is lame and I not going to play it.

Thanks for being the perfect example for why the definition of God needs to be updated.
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Old 06-18-2015, 02:45 AM
 
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Interesting since you were the person who brought it up FIRST.

Need a refresher?
I was referring to your method of reasoning, not the topic of the debate polemic itself. Please pay attention to the nuances.

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Your game is lame and I not going to play
Buh-bye.

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Old 06-18-2015, 02:49 AM
 
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After what happened to you last time, please don't drag this into another creation-evolution polemic, if you value your dignity. It's not relevant to the point.
Link to thread?
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Old 06-18-2015, 04:24 AM
 
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It's in the Christianity forum, with evolution in the title somewhere, but the thread is now locked.
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Old 06-18-2015, 04:45 AM
 
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God, as defined by the ontological argument - bane of atheists who are illiterate of basic modal logic.

Those atheists who think the MOA is a question begging fallacy need to get their propositional logic in order before they can think of even beginning to tackle modal logical operations.
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Old 06-19-2015, 03:23 PM
 
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- The very fact that you weren't aware of point 2, validates point 2. Remember I said that it is inseminated covertly?
- Those who are inseminated with these beliefs have trouble distinguishing between a priori and a posteriori knowledge in the same way you do.
Yep - I understood that. It was clear enough.

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Old 06-19-2015, 03:25 PM
 
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