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Old 06-22-2015, 07:31 PM
 
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No, which is why they are still a cult.



Funny, because I have never heard anyone, anywhere, accuse them of being a cult aside from Christian fundamentalists.
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Old 06-22-2015, 08:42 PM
 
Location: Parts Unknown, Northern California
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Funny, because I have never heard anyone, anywhere, accuse them of being a cult aside from Christian fundamentalists.
If a Christian missionary group is murdered in some foreign nation, political pressure will be brought upon Christian dominated nation's governments to respond in some manner. Muslims who run into trouble in foreign nations may rely on Islamic governments making a stink on their behalf.

If a group of Wiccans got themselves arrested while visiting Thirdworldistan, Wiccans in America could demand that the US take some action, but there are not enough of them to make any of the politicians feel any pressure. Quite the opposite, what politician would want it known that he or she was standing up for pagans? They have no political clout.

And that is why they remain a cult, that absence of cultural mainstream support.
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Old 06-22-2015, 11:06 PM
 
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Paganism = the child
Cult = the adolescent
Religion = the young adult
Spirituality = the older adult
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Old 06-22-2015, 11:10 PM
 
Location: Ontario, Canada
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Paganism = the child
Cult = the adolescent
Religion = the young adult
Spirituality = the older adult
I disagree.

Paganism = the Fool
Religion = the Fool
Spirituality = the Fool

signed:

The Fool.

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Old 06-22-2015, 11:16 PM
 
Location: New Zealand
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I disagree.

Paganism = the Fool
Religion = the Fool
Spirituality = the Fool

signed:

The Fool.

Well that is what the story is about you fool.
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Old 06-24-2015, 01:01 PM
 
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If a Christian missionary group is murdered in some foreign nation, political pressure will be brought upon Christian dominated nation's governments to respond in some manner. Muslims who run into trouble in foreign nations may rely on Islamic governments making a stink on their behalf.

If a group of Wiccans got themselves arrested while visiting Thirdworldistan, Wiccans in America could demand that the US take some action, but there are not enough of them to make any of the politicians feel any pressure. Quite the opposite, what politician would want it known that he or she was standing up for pagans? They have no political clout.

And that is why they remain a cult, that absence of cultural mainstream support.

WOW, I have a BA in comparative religion, and I never heard of "cult" as being "people with beliefs that are not part of the mainstream spirituality of their country." That definition simply does not exist anywhere but in your post.
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Old 06-24-2015, 01:28 PM
 
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That definition simply does not exist anywhere but in your post.
Then it was about time that someone got it right, wasn't it?

They are all cults, that is the point. Religions are just the bloated forms.
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Old 06-24-2015, 01:31 PM
 
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Then it was about time that someone got it right, wasn't it?

I define a bacteria as a fat man who loves Mexican food. I will not be swayed by any "micro biologists" who have a different opinion.

As a rule, the people who usually like to argue against religion have never actually studied it, aside perhaps for some religious indoctrination they had as kids.

I have yet to hear of one vocal anti-religious person who actually has any education in comparative religion.
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Old 06-24-2015, 06:47 PM
 
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I define a bacteria as a fat man who loves Mexican food. I will not be swayed by any "micro biologists" who have a different opinion.

As a rule, the people who usually like to argue against religion have never actually studied it, aside perhaps for some religious indoctrination they had as kids.

I have yet to hear of one vocal anti-religious person who actually has any education in comparative religion.
You have never heard of Bart Ehrman? Ever read any of his books?

His credentials:
BA Moody Bible Institute (1978)
MDiv Wheaton College (1981)
PhD Princeton Theological Seminary (1985)




btw...I think you are mis defining "bacteria." They are actually single celled microbes, not obese fans of Mexican food. Happy to clear this up for you.
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Old 06-24-2015, 07:12 PM
 
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They are one and the same.
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