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Old 06-27-2015, 04:47 PM
 
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If your god gave people free will, why do you try to impede upon another person's god given right? Do you think our government should have all of it's law agree exclusively with Biblical rules? Do you think our government should only look out for the Christians' interests, and exclude the rights of non-believers?

If this was only an issue about shared legal benefits and rights then I had no problem with civil unions and laws granted the same rights and access. But the right to redefine marriage? How is that a right? This isn't about the right to live a homosexual life. You already had that right and a piece of paper shouldn't change your life. This is about the right to demand society recognize and accept such unions as being just as natural and normal as a heterosexual marriage. Sorry but I am not going believe against the Bible and my God just because some high court of fallible sinful men declared it so.


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We live in a country where we are free to have homosexual relations, and now same-sex marriage is legal. As of yesterday's ruling, did your government take any rights away from you? You can still marry a person of the opposite sex. Nothing has changed for you, we have just made the same law more inclusive.

The government yesterday has set us on a course completely against our country's Biblical foundation of morality. Like it or not, the government has to decide moral issues. Now we are on a path where we just make it up as we go along. And if you trust the government to made logical good decisions then you need to take the blinders off. Look how warped our moral laws are right now. Smoking pot is deemed wrong, but it's perfectly find to drink alcohol even though alcohol causes far much damage. Pornography is legal, but prostitution is not. Why is that? Slippery slope ahead. I already have to shake my head in disbelief that I now in a country where gays and transgenders are hailed as heroes while cops are the bad guys.
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Old 06-27-2015, 04:55 PM
 
Location: USA
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Jeff...the U.S. is not a Christian theocracy. The Christian God has no jurisdiction here.

If you want to live in a place where a God is sovereign, move to Saudi Arabia. You'd fit in perfectly there.
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Old 06-27-2015, 04:59 PM
 
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The LGBT community has taken it's rightful place at the table. That makes me very happy. The Supremes did not disappoint.
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Old 06-27-2015, 05:02 PM
 
Location: Canada
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And what will happen if gays come in majority and influence supreme court under the flag of democracy to make same sex marriage mandatory for EVERYONE in all 50 states?
I literally had to screenshot this reply and share it with some friends. It's that amazing.

I predict more flooding in the US except this time it will be caused by the tears of fundamentalists. That's if God's wrath doesn't destroy us all first.
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Old 06-27-2015, 05:04 PM
 
Location: Ontario, Canada
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If this was only an issue about shared legal benefits and rights then I had no problem with civil unions and laws granted the same rights and access. But the right to redefine marriage? How is that a right? This isn't about the right to live a homosexual life. You already had that right and a piece of paper shouldn't change your life. This is about the right to demand society recognize and accept such unions as being just as natural and normal as a heterosexual marriage. Sorry but I am not going believe against the Bible and my God just because some high court of fallible sinful men declared it so.




The government yesterday has set us on a course completely against our country's Biblical foundation of morality. Like it or not, the government has to decide moral issues. Now we are on a path where we just make it up as we go along. And if you trust the government to made logical good decisions then you need to take the blinders off. Look how warped our moral laws are right now. Smoking pot is deemed wrong, but it's perfectly find to drink alcohol even though alcohol causes far much damage. Pornography is legal, but prostitution is not. Why is that? Slippery slope ahead. I already have to shake my head in disbelief that I now in a country where gays and transgenders are hailed as heroes while cops are the bad guys.
You poor, sad, frightened little man.

You have my pity.
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Old 06-27-2015, 05:10 PM
 
Location: USA
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You poor, sad, frightened little man.

You have my pity.
"This is your brain."

"This is religion."

"This is your brain on religion."

"Any Questions?"
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Old 06-27-2015, 05:11 PM
 
Location: Venus
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Both are something that a lot of people find immoral. That is the only thing that they share in common. I find it hard to believe that you just don't get that. Your silly argument that I should be fine with gay marriage if I don't participate in it doesn't work when you replace it with something you DO find immoral.

I find it hard to believe that you don't get that there is a major difference between the two. And it is hard to believe that you don't get that YOUR religion does not rule this land-as well as MY religion doesn't. As long as no one is hurt (unlike your dog fighting analogy), what does it matter?

And my niece & her wife have been married for several years now and you haven't been harmed by that one bit-just like you haven't been harmed by my marriage to my husband. Nor will you personally be harmed by any heterosexual or same sex couple who marry. Because, frankly it is NONE OF YOUR BUSINESS! The only marriage that affects you is your own-and that is the way it should be. And like I said, if you don't like same-sex marriage, don't have one!



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Old 06-27-2015, 05:13 PM
 
Location: Venus
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The LGBT community has taken it's rightful place at the table. That makes me very happy. The Supremes did not disappoint.

Well, Scalia is blowing a gasket.



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Old 06-27-2015, 05:18 PM
 
Location: The #1 sunshine state, Arizona.
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If this was only an issue about shared legal benefits and rights then I had no problem with civil unions and laws granted the same rights and access. But the right to redefine marriage? How is that a right? This isn't about the right to live a homosexual life. You already had that right and a piece of paper shouldn't change your life. This is about the right to demand society recognize and accept such unions as being just as natural and normal as a heterosexual marriage. Sorry but I am not going believe against the Bible and my God just because some high court of fallible sinful men declared it so.




The government yesterday has set us on a course completely against our country's Biblical foundation of morality. Like it or not, the government has to decide moral issues. Now we are on a path where we just make it up as we go along. And if you trust the government to made logical good decisions then you need to take the blinders off. Look how warped our moral laws are right now. Smoking pot is deemed wrong, but it's perfectly find to drink alcohol even though alcohol causes far much damage. Pornography is legal, but prostitution is not. Why is that? Slippery slope ahead. I already have to shake my head in disbelief that I now in a country where gays and transgenders are hailed as heroes while cops are the bad guys.
Jeff, it is you who needs to take off the blinders, you reside is a country where LGBT people are equal to you. It's not immoral, it is the civil way we treat people in this country. There is nothing warped about treating law abiding citizens equally. Your belief system does not matter in this instance, we all are equal under the law.
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Old 06-27-2015, 05:53 PM
 
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Well, Scalia is blowing a gasket.



Cat
May he blow two gaskets.
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