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No, but I am far from being a lone wolf in my beliefs.
Unfortunately, this is true but since all, and quite possibly most, Christians do not share your views, why should those organizations and businesses be conducted in the discriminatory way you think they should be?
It is not fact that homosexuals are "born that way". There is no proof of it.
It is ironic that you guys often accuse unbelievers of rejecting all evidence and then you do the same thing yourselves. There is plenty of evidence that sexual orientation is not chosen or changeable and plenty of solid evidence for evolution just to give two examples, and yet you will say there is "no proof", it's "not fact" and in fact people are simply making it up and out of their minds. Why? Because it is contrary to your dogma.
You are happy to accept the findings of science when it supports of even appears to support conventional marriage or if it provides you with cell phones or televisions or fast transportation or central heating and air conditioning. But if it is an inconvenient truth that contradicts your beliefs, not so much. Your beliefs aren't able to change with new information.
It is ironic that you guys often accuse unbelievers of rejecting all evidence and then you do the same thing yourselves. There is plenty of evidence that sexual orientation is not chosen or changeable and plenty of solid evidence for evolution just to give two examples, and yet you will say there is "no proof", it's "not fact" and in fact people are simply making it up and out of their minds. Why? Because it is contrary to your dogma.
You are happy to accept the findings of science when it supports of even appears to support conventional marriage or if it provides you with cell phones or televisions or fast transportation or central heating and air conditioning. But if it is an inconvenient truth that contradicts your beliefs, not so much. Your beliefs aren't able to change with new information.
Fundamentalists are married to their prejudices and divorce isn't allowed.
It is ironic that you guys often accuse unbelievers of rejecting all evidence and then you do the same thing yourselves. There is plenty of evidence that sexual orientation is not chosen or changeable and plenty of solid evidence for evolution just to give two examples, and yet you will say there is "no proof", it's "not fact" and in fact people are simply making it up and out of their minds. Why? Because it is contrary to your dogma.
You are happy to accept the findings of science when it supports of even appears to support conventional marriage or if it provides you with cell phones or televisions or fast transportation or central heating and air conditioning. But if it is an inconvenient truth that contradicts your beliefs, not so much. Your beliefs aren't able to change with new information.
As jeff asked above...why do we not give a pass to any of the other compulsions? Some people are simply "born with" other orientations, aren't they? Who are you to judge a pedophile? Or other negative behaviors that are non-sexual in nature, such as alcoholism or compulsive gambling?
As jeff asked above...why do we not give a pass to any of the other compulsions? Some people are simply "born with" other orientations, aren't they? Who are you to judge a pedophile? Or other negative behaviors that are non-sexual in nature, such as alcoholism or compulsive gambling?
Try to wrap your brain around the concept of victims. I know it's difficult -- but try.
Pedophiles, alcoholics and gamblers cause other people pain. There are real - not imaginary - victims.
Who are the victims in adult gay relationships?
I'll tell you - there are none. Except the spoiled-brat feelings of immature, bigoted fundamentalists who think they, and only they, have the right to govern society.
Too bad. So sad, Pastor.
LGBTQ folks aren't going to take any more crap from bible-thumping bigots.
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You REALLY need to stop making the fallacy of "begging the question". It is not fact that homosexuals are "born that way". There is no proof of it. It's not proven.
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If you are going with the born argument then why is it ok to treat pedophiles with hate and usually desire to see them executed? They are simply born with a different kind of orientation. They are punished even if it is found that they only had thoughts about their desires. No action required. Look what happened to the Subway guy. He is ruined because of his one thought.
See how your false world creates a double standard. In my world, sin is sin.
After the bakery owners went to the Internet to raise money, the court has decided that that same couple and bakery owners owe the lesbian couple who they denied a wedding cake, $135,000.
Maybe that finally sends the message that no you cannot discriminate against same sex marriage or those who are LBQT.
Of course we can expect outrage by some of the religious fundamentalist around the country. Get into the 21st century, because the rest the world really doesn't care.
Try to wrap your brain around the concept of victims. I know it's difficult -- but try.
Pedophiles, alcoholics and gamblers cause other people pain. There are real - not imaginary - victims.
Who are the victims in adult gay relationships?
Do some googling. It's not that difficult. The statistical proof shows that the homosexual lifestyle does result in higher rates of disease. Yes--people are injured by it. At the very least, you ought to be willing to legalize all drug use for adult use if you want to be consistent.
In any event, the question of victims does not change the fact that those folks feel every bit the same compulsion as you do. Why wouldn't you want them to just be happy? Look how mean-spirited you are!
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I'll tell you - there are none. Except the spoiled-brat feelings of immature, bigoted fundamentalists who think they, and only they, have the right to govern society.
Too bad. So sad, Pastor.
LGBTQ folks aren't going to take any more crap from bible-thumping bigots.
No...now I guess it's the Christians' turn to take crap from LGBTQRST fascists?
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